What are DJs doing wrong

Danceable! Suitable for practice.
So, simply structured music with a reliable rhythm, more Donato than Troilo, more D'Arienzo than Biagi; and of course Di Sarli, Di Sarli, Di Sarli; never ever Gobbi/Landó??

But fair enough. Practicas are for a self-selecting group of enthusiasts. You can't please everyone.
Here, practicas are more like a sandbox for course participants.
And practicas are generally informal - how would a formal practica be like?
 
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So, simply structured music with a reliable rhythm, more Donato than Troilo, more D'Arienzo than Biagi; and of course Di Sarli, Di Sarli, Di Sarli; never ever Gobbi/Landó??
As you're aware, practicas nowadays can range from a few people meeting somewhere to practice, through 'guided practica', with some teacher, to 'informal' milonga. That may mean anything from using some music (possibly on their smartphone) someone wants to try out (including Troilo, Biagi, Fresedo, Pugliese,... to contemporary renditions, or alternatives) which they tryout when there's a slot, to some playlist just running for that 'informal milonga'. Some traditional, some 'alternative' (i.e. a longer cortina)


how would a formal practica be like?
A 'guided practica' with some teacher - who may have music appropriate to what they're guiding, possibly from some previous lesson, or as requested.

Or:
formal practica <=> informal milonga​
 
  • It's actually more fun to beat people with a junk car. If you beat someone with a $100k Porsche, they say "Of course you won, look at that car." If you beat them with a lesser car, it shows you beat them with skill and not the machinery. I found it great fun to beat cars that cost much more, had wider tires, better suspension, had more horsepower, etc.
I used to be something of a Nürburgring addict, and a small syndicate of us bought an old Golf GTi to live there so we could just fly in. We spent some money on the suspension and brakes (but not the engine) and were found there almost every weekend overtaking Porsches and Ferraris.
  • The 24 Hours of Lemons (yes, Lemons, not Le Mans) is a popular race with cars that are supposed to have cost less than something like $500 to buy.
It sounds like you may know my friend Chris Rae?
 
"Better music" regarding which criteria? What could be the underlying mechanism?
And why not play these playlists at milongas and save the money for a DJ?

Because they play music people actually think is good, rather than a parade of mediocre and overplayed stuff from 2nd and 3rd tier orchestras.

I'm sure at least 50% of the DJs could be replaced by algorithmically generated playlist with better results.
 
I used to be something of a Nürburgring addict, and a small syndicate of us bought an old Golf GTi to live there so we could just fly in. We spent some money on the suspension and brakes (but not the engine) and were found there almost every weekend overtaking Porsches and Ferraris.
How great to run on the world's best race track! I don't know Chris, but will look for him as I'm hoping to spectate (maybe crew) at Lemons this summer.
Sophisticated ideas. But this isn't about dancing, it's about DJing.

So it's an individual time trial, a one-man show. 80-120 spectators have bet their ticket money that they'll see a good race, and with top equipment, please.

If I tell the (professional) organizer I'd like to experience improvised DJing with Spotify and the headphone jack, he'll tell me that I'd better go home and take my temperature!
Good point and I did take it in a different direction. If racing for enough prize money (implies a large crowd, like NASCAR or F1), significant money does get spent on the car. I remember insufficient equipment at last summer's milonga on the beach -- the waves were surprisingly loud and it was hard to hear on the little bluetooth speaker (1st one broke, and they did rush and eventually get a big speaker going). One of my best computer enhancements was attaching speakers with a good bass speaker. Wow, what a difference!

Do you have a knee-in-the-curve suggestion for speakers for a large room in a home? Also the speakers might wind up on the beach at some point.
 
Because they play music people actually think is good, rather than a parade of mediocre and overplayed stuff from 2nd and 3rd tier orchestras.
The vast majority of the "Spotify Dancers" copies from mediocre and overplayed playlists, listening to the tracks sporadically, and then they're happy when, during a dance session, the time finally comes to play that stuff. And especially if it's real tango music, and even then, the sound quality is poor.

I'm sure at least 50% of the DJs could be replaced by algorithmically generated playlist with better results.
Musically of course - and if it hasn't been realized today, then probably in a few years.
 
The vast majority of the "Spotify Dancers" copies from mediocre and overplayed playlists, listening to the tracks sporadically, and then they're happy when, during a dance session, the time finally comes to play that stuff. And especially if it's real tango music, and even then, the sound quality is poor.
Isn't it there and chosen because, by some measure, it's 'popular', danceable, liked, and enjoyed, whereas some DJ's choice of some obscure 'gem' isn't?

Sound quality, when old recordings are simply recovered, can be a problem and make some otherwise good music less chosen. This is where algorithmic choice (e.g. played frequently) can fail because of the criteria used.
 
..rather than a parade of mediocre.. stuff from 2nd and 3rd tier orchestras.
I don't think the quality of the orchestra is the deciding factor, Rabbit ! It's about style, it's about ideology! Let's not kid ourselves, 15 to 20 years ago the character of the music played at milongas changed drastically: suddenly, dos-por-cuatro became fashionable again, and music oriented towards cadencia became popular. Long melodic arcs vanished. And don't forget, parallel to the change in musical style, the codigos began to be promoted, which hadn't existed in that form in the previous decades. New formats like encuentros also emerged. And the DJs orchestrated this development.
Only the arrival of Spotify freed many dancers from this dictate. You could see it as the disempowerment of a certain caste of DJs who wanted to impose their conservative canon.
 
Only the arrival of Spotify freed many dancers from this dictate
Personally I wouldn't trust a presentation to Spotify, or similar. Rather like I'd never trust a PowerPoint presentation to files on a remote network or cloud storage. I'd want something local, under my control - with backup(s).

But I take the point. It provides an intermediary between selecting and acquiring physical media (or local storage) of personal choice and some algorithm-promoted playlist.

But people choose to play what they like. A DJ should be working at expanding the options, but have to face the fact that some gems became hidden for a reason.
 
Isn't it there and chosen because, by some measure, it's 'popular', danceable, liked, and enjoyed, whereas some DJ's choice of some obscure 'gem' isn't?
In my opinion, DJs who play music that's unpleasant to dance to for the majority, should be replaced by better DJs.
And DJs who only play the usual standards should be replaced by playlists with the usual stuff in one form or another, and a nice looking mannequin.

If I need additional tracks for a tanda to go with a good song, well known or not, I search through my collection. And something either fits well or it doesn't, well known or not. I can't do anything with the term "obscure gems" in this context.
 
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I'm surprised that no one here has responded to my theory (see above) that the use of Spotify or AI also has an anarchic component!
 

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