Whats the best way not to forget combinations?

Heather2007 said:
See DB's response below...the BEST advice thus far:
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Of course! :)

Heather2007 said:
And DON'T write things down. (A man's curse I know). The milonga is not a place of academia and any good follower will know when you're thinking about the dance rather than feeling it.
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Well.... except that I forget stuff if I don't write it down.

Sure, I have no problem with "Don't laboriously record each step in a 20-step sequence" as advice.

But I think it's a good idea in general - for me anyhow - to take notes from a class, even if it's only a couple of lines: "Hold your head up", "pivot thenstep", that sort of thing.
 
I remember being told, "When you start learning to dance Tango and have 10 moves, you want to learn 25. When you've got 25 moves, you want to learn 50. When you've got 50 moves, you want 200. When you've got 200 moves, you only want to use 10." - BT
 
c955 said:
I remember being told, "When you start learning to dance Tango and have 10 moves, you want to learn 25. When you've got 25 moves, you want to learn 50. When you've got 50 moves, you want 200. When you've got 200 moves, you only want to use 10." - BT
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Exactly. Because when you come right down to it , how often does a "colgada into a volcada" actually express the music? :p

Trouble is, if you dont keep practising the moves, you start losing em.. :rolleyes:
 
Captain Jep said:
Then why do we go to lessons? ;)

The best way not to forget tango combinations : date the teacher :p (is there in fact any other way?)
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I am the leader, so dating the teacher mmmm.

She is sweet and so, but I must lead her. :lol:

My teacher always that we don't learn combinations, we learn elements so we could combine them.

So when I watch YT I can analyze the movement and combinations of dancer, and perform them. :banana:

Or ask my teacher how can i do sth ...
 
c955 said:
I remember being told, "When you start learning to dance Tango and have 10 moves, you want to learn 25. When you've got 25 moves, you want to learn 50. When you've got 50 moves, you want 200. When you've got 200 moves, you only want to use 10." - BT
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Omar Vega used a variation of this to describe different levels of dancers. IT went something like:

A beginner tango dancer uses 5 steps
An intermediate dancer uses 10 steps
An "advanced" dancer uses 50 steps
A stage dancer uses 100 steps
A true milonguero uses 5 steps.

Forgive the paraphrase.. I can't remember it perfectly, but you get the gist...
 
I assume that Vega means, an experienced dance can translate music into motion by using no more than five steps. However, how he dances the five steps - the musical interpretation - is the think that gives the lady an enchanting dance. That doesn’t mean that he will use only 5 steps when doing a demonstration or a show.

I wouldn’t call me a true milonguero. Ask me again when I’m in my sixties.;) However, I think I can understand him.

The first couple of years I never recorded anything. I was trying to learn everything about dancing tango and yes - I wanted to know every combination possible. I never missed the 90% percent of steps I forgot. I forgot them because I didn’t use them, and if I don’t use them, what where the good for anyway?

Eventually I ended up, with my favorite handful of combination, when dancing in a crowded milonga. Those steps I remembered well, because they suited me. I liked and used them a lot. They were somewhat the distillate of my tango journey, and they reflected my style. In way I’m very happy with that.

I started recording when I took up stage work, as I tend to forget former choreographies, when working on new ones and the camera is a much better proof to your own work than a mirror. With the stage tango as a valve for all those fancy combinations back in my head and a new calmness at the milonga, it finally dawned to me. It’s not the variety of steps but how they are danced,. how they convey the music. That’s what makes a dance wonderful for the couple.

Now I’m a little sorry that I havn’t started to recorded anything earlier. I would have missed the main points, as I was focused on steps, but there would still have been many interesting gems between the lines. That’s why I thinks, it’s much better to ask your teachers to film a short survey of them, than trying to write anything down yourself. There will still something left to discover later.
 
Zoopsia59 said:
Omar Vega used a variation of this to describe different levels of dancers. IT went something like:

A beginner tango dancer uses 5 steps
An intermediate dancer uses 10 steps
An "advanced" dancer uses 50 steps
A stage dancer uses 100 steps
A true milonguero uses 5 steps.

Forgive the paraphrase.. I can't remember it perfectly, but you get the gist...
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the few times I'd seen Omar dance in the milongas he danced in the way that Zoopsia describes, loosely quoting Omar, as "A true milonguero..."
 
Lui said:
I assume that Vega means, an experienced dance can translate music into motion by using no more than five steps. However, how he dances the five steps - the musical interpretation - is the think that gives the lady an enchanting dance. That doesn’t mean that he will use only 5 steps when doing a demonstration or a show.
I wouldn’t call me a true milonguero. Ask me again when I’m in my sixties.;) However, I think I can understand him.
The first couple of years I never recorded anything. I was trying to learn everything about dancing tango and yes - I wanted to know every combination possible. I never missed the 90% percent of steps I forgot. I forgot them because I didn’t use them, and if I don’t use them, what where the good for anyway?
Eventually I ended up, with my favorite handful of combination, when dancing in a crowded milonga. Those steps I remembered well, because they suited me. I liked and used them a lot. They were somewhat the distillate of my tango journey, and they reflected my style. In way I’m very happy with that.

I started recording when I took up stage work, as I tend to forget former choreographies, when working on new ones and the camera is a much better proof to your own work than a mirror. With the stage tango as a valve for all those fancy combinations back in my head and a new calmness at the milonga, it finally dawned to me. It’s not the variety of steps but how they are danced,. how they convey the music. That’s what makes a dance wonderful for the couple.
Now I’m a little sorry that I havn’t started to recorded anything earlier. I would have missed the main points, as I was focused on steps, but there would still have been many interesting gems between the lines. That’s why I thinks, it’s much better to ask your teachers to film a short survey of them, than trying to write anything down yourself. There will still something left to discover later.
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I said it before and I'll say it again:
When I started dancing Tango I was PATHETIC
But after a year of private lessons I moved up to TERRIBLE
After two years of private lessons I moved up to Dismal
Another three years of privates and I moved up to TOLERABLE
I wonder where I’ll be after another five years of private lessons?
 
hbboogie1 said:
I said it before and I'll say it again:
When I started dancing Tango I was PATHETIC
But after a year of private lessons I moved up to TERRIBLE
After two years of private lessons I moved up to Dismal
Another three years of privates and I moved up to TOLERABLE
I wonder where I’ll be after another five years of private lessons?
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Maybe you should change your teacher.
I know some teachers that are really awful.
You could spend years with them and learn nothing.

Or maybe you are too hard on yourself.

Does your teacher know how to lead?
How often do you listen tango music?
How often do you practice that you are aware of every movement?
 
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