bordertangoman
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hmmm I get this with my regular dance partner; she systemises her dancing into "moves" and not following. bloody polymath.
When do you stop being a beginner?
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hmmm I get this with my regular dance partner; she systemises her dancing into "moves" and not following. bloody polymath.
I have often used beginner followers to demonstrate. I was trying to demonstrate to leaders that, if I could lead a beginner through a step, it was not her fault if they could not lead her through the same step.
Lilly_of_the_valley
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...And to followers, that if a leader, instead of trying to "instruct" her verbally, just shuts up and leads, it actually would work much, much better
Yay! I'm not a beginner after all!!
Although, if I'm being totally honest, this happened more some years back than recently. I think it had less to do with my own level and more to do with the comparative level of me to others in the classes... and the others caught up eventually.
And I DO still get corrections on my walk and posture.
ONE DAY I'll get them mastered!
It seems that one can never prove that he/she is advanced.
Who cares, as long as we get to dance with our favorite partners.
pascal
Active Member
It happens all the times during the class. We see pupils having trouble, I lead the follower and it's ok, I say it's not her fault, while the female teacher follows the other pupil and tells him he's ok too.
pascal
Active Member
if a leader, instead of trying to "instruct" her verbally, just shuts up and leads, it actually would work much, much better
This is more something we have to tell to our follower pupils. Shut up and follow whatever he may lead, instead of telling him "This is not the sequence" or "With the teacher I am following fine."
bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
hear hear
The hardest way to learn is with beginners dancing with other beginners. Unfortunately, that's how it typically is done.
bordertangoman
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I dont see why anyone should have it easier than we did. :tongue:
Lilly_of_the_valley
Well-Known Member
That's true, the same goes for both parts: blaming and/or instructing the partner will most probably make things worse, not better. It is just around here we mostly see men doing that, but YMMV.
Probably because there are more women around who will tolerate such behavior from men than there are men who will tolerate it from women.
I think it's just a case of numbers. When there are more women than men in the community, the women put up with more in order to get to dance at all. If there were a place where men far outnumber the women, the women would probably be a lot less tolerant, because they would get to dance even if they snubbed the offenders.
Personally, I don't put up with blaming, no matter who is doing it. If an experienced teacher can give you instruction without it coming off as blame (even in a setting where clearly you are at fault) then there's no excuse for one of your own peers to have any attitude other than "WE are having this problem in the dance.. How can WE fix it?"
twnkltoz
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Here it goes both ways. Drives me crazy.
You're not a beginner anymore when you quit blaming your partner for the quality of your dance. Or, has that already been said?