When do you stop being a beginner?

[Nathan]

I would say, you are not a beginner anymore when you start recognizing the music and realize you have to dance differently to Di Sarli from the way you dance to D'Arienzo.

Yes, and when you can actually accomplish this without interfering with anyone else's dancing, then you are advanced.

 

[opendoor]

Re: recognize

When you can recognize and name... Then you are not a beginner any longer

At first: welcome poetas84 to DF

secondly: Yes, I find this, too. It really is the step towards a more self-determined way of dancing.

Finally: Canaro (frowning): there is so much trash among his works, so how can you be sure to pick up one of his best songs? D´Arienzo (musing): I find rhythmic music rather suites for beginners. And concerning me, D´Arienzo (or Biagi, and also 30s tango-milonga stuff) is my token for pausing, talking, drinking. DiSarli (da-core), Biagi-valses (ok) but I cannot fully hide how his tangos always turn me off.

...If at home you star dancing by yourself.Yes (?)

Interesting, didn´t you dance at home from the very first moment on?

 

[UKDancer]

Canaro (frowning): there is so much trash among his works, so how can you be sure to pick up one of his best songs?

This is also one of the signs that you are no longer a beginner: that your ears can tell the difference!

 

[bordertangoman]

when you dont care what other people think of your dancing.

 

[bordertangoman]

When you can recognize and name at least 3 of the best songs of Canaro,D'Arienzo DiSarli and at least 2 of the best valses of Rodolfo Biagi

i think that is a misnomer. i dance with experienced tangueras, who know the music but dont know the names of the songs or who they're buy, and I forget names.

 

[opendoor]

..songs or who they're buy...

Sorry, dont know whether my english is so rough or that I found a freudian slip, in the sense that you connect songs rather with buying than with names

 

[dchester]

At first: welcome poetas84 to DF

secondly: Yes, I find this, too. It really is the step towards a more self-determined way of dancing.

Finally: Canaro (frowning): there is so much trash among his works, so how can you be sure to pick up one of his best songs? D´Arienzo (musing): I find rhythmic music rather suites for beginners. And concerning me, D´Arienzo (or Biagi, and also 30s tango-milonga stuff) is my token for pausing, talking, drinking. DiSarli (da-core), Biagi-valses (ok) but I cannot fully hide how his tangos always turn me off.

Interesting, didn´t you dance at home from the very first moment on?

I love Canaro and D'Arienzo, however most Biagi tangos are rather boring to me. I guess it's different strokes for different folks (as Biagi seem to be rather popular to some people).

 

[opendoor]

Understood, each his/her own. And I am sure you and I could find an overlap within C and d´A, too.

 

[bordertangoman]

Sorry, dont know whether my english is so rough or that I found a freudian slip, in the sense that you connect songs rather with buying than with names

a typo; the u being next to the y on the keyboard

i meant 'by'

 

[poetas 84]

One does not have to recognize and name tango songs and neither do I, but by the time you are able to recognize and name lets say 10 Tango songs you really love, you will have put enough energy into Tango so as not to be considered beginner any longer.

 

[AndaBien]

One stops being a beginner when they realize that their partner is more than a prop for steps.

 

[sixela]

When someone tells you they're honoured you give them a certain compliment?

BTW, Andabien, I know some pretty advanced followers who make me feel I'm just a prop for steps when I dance with them. Are they beginners?

 

[AndaBien]

...I know some pretty advanced followers who make me feel I'm just a prop for steps when I dance with them. Are they beginners?

Well, you're the one who said they were advanced. If they left me feeling that way, I would never dance with them again.

 

[LoveTango]

As a follower, I think I became "advanced" when I quite thinking/guessing what steps to execute, when I became confident that I would be able to accompany the leader to experience the full music journey with our movement.

 

[Peaches]

When you can recognize and name at least 3 of the best songs of Canaro,D'Arienzo DiSarli and at least 2 of the best valses of Rodolfo Biagi,

Based on that criterion, I will never stop being a beginner, since I am ridiculously bad at recognizing music and attaching names, and matching things to composers is even worse.

I stopped considering myself a beginner when I really started to own my tango, when I no longer forgave myself my mistakes because "I was a beginner." T'is a very squishy concept, but I remember it quite clearly and it was a definite turning point for me.