Why do people give up salsa?

[salsachinita]

....sharing and nurturing the growth of other dancers who are kind and willing to share and nurture my growth as a dancer.

Gupson Pierre says something similar...

Hmmmm...Is he a dancer? I haven't heard of him.

Yup, he's an instructor out in Asia. He used to teach out of Singapore - had a troupe that performed at a couple of the LA Congresses.

I think Salsachinita knows him.

I do indeed :wink: .

See pic here: http://www.dance-forums.com/album/showphoto.php/photo/797/password//sort/1/cat/500/page/1

 

[DancePoet]

I haven't given it up yet, but then again, I've barely started.

 

[africana]

That's another possibility. If being in the in crowd is important to you, it must get frustrating if they don't let you in. Does there really always have to be an in crowd? :?

Furthering this train of thought - what can *you* do about it? How can you make things not be this way? How can you change your perception of this being the way it is?

Well you can always infiltrate the in-crowd and eventually everyone is part of it.
but what if you don't like the people in it? what if they are full of intellectual midgets? what if you can't hide your disdain?
for instance I cannot stand gossiping and backstabbing small-minded people.
I also dislike one-dimensional dancers who actually believe they are great dancers. By one-dimensional I'm talking about dancers who are not well rounded in skills and have no desire to become well-rounded - e.g. can do lots of patterns without actually dancing and vice versa..

I have never felt unable to be accepted into in-crowds (it's pretty easy when I want it) but most times I dislike being part of a unit or herd and not standing out, except in situations when it's for "protection" or avoidment

I find that in-crowders tend to see-through or ignore outsiders (they're invsible) unless they have something to gain by being friendly, a simple example is smiling and greeting strange men who are part of the popular crowd just because you want to be asked to dance

To me that's hypocritic and scheming in some ways, I prefer to not butter-up people with the sole intent of using them. I just go ahead and use them :twisted: with their permission of course

 

[pygmalion]

Or maybe it's time to find a new dance scene, if you live in a big enough city ... :roll:

 

[tj]

Well you can always infiltrate the in-crowd and eventually everyone is part of it.

Along this train of thought - what happens if you (and others of like-mind) become part of the *In Crowd* but don't act like them? That you don't gossip or backstab. That you're friendly to folks who are outside that circle? Pretty soon, the *In Crowd* won't seem as bad, I think.

but what if you don't like the people in it? what if they are full of intellectual midgets? what if you can't hide your disdain?
for instance I cannot stand gossiping and backstabbing small-minded people.

Then they were never worth your time in the first place, and people shouldn't hold them in such high regard.

I also dislike one-dimensional dancers who actually believe they are great dancers. By one-dimensional I'm talking about dancers who are not well rounded in skills and have no desire to become well-rounded - e.g. can do lots of patterns without actually dancing and vice versa..

Sure, egos (male and female) can be out of control in dance scenes...

I have never felt unable to be accepted into in-crowds (it's pretty easy when I want it) but most times I dislike being part of a unit or herd and not standing out, except in situations when it's for "protection" or avoidment

I find that in-crowders tend to see-through or ignore outsiders (they're invsible) unless they have something to gain by being friendly, a simple example is smiling and greeting strange men who are part of the popular crowd just because you want to be asked to dance

To me that's hypocritic and scheming in some ways, I prefer to not butter-up people with the sole intent of using them. I just go ahead and use them :twisted: with their permission of course

Well there you go! :wink:

 

[ArtsySalsera]

I don't care about being apart of the in-crowd. I just want to dance with as many good partners as I can when I go out.
I don't know what it is but I get some kind of high off of going and going and going like the energizer bunny. Of course this is danced with skill not mania.

Usually when people see my/your genuine gumption/skill for the dance they'll adopt me/you because they see you genuinely love what they love.
Especially if your style is similar to theirs.
Birds of a feather / Kindred Spirits and all that jazz. They know you feel what they feel. Feel me??

 

[africana]

yea i feel you artsy 8)

 

[ArtsySalsera]

....and you know....
I do believe I'm feeling pumped for
tomorrow night....

 

[dancin/dj]

artsysalsera,i've seen your pic on a philly board,your pretty-u go girl and i feel ya too,we've never met or danced,i was part of the salsa crowd for a few years-i still dances salsa and once in a while go to a salsa venue-i know all about what u wrote and a lot of the drama,perhaps some time will dance.

 

[salsachinita]

This emoticon is priceless !

 

[ArtsySalsera]

This emoticon is priceless !

Yup, Cute little buggers, aren't they!
...and also thanks for posting those pics.

artsysalsera,i've seen your pic on a philly board,your pretty-u go girl and i feel ya too,we've never met or danced,i was part of the salsa crowd for a few years-i still dances salsa and once in a while go to a salsa venue-i know all about what u wrote and a lot of the drama,perhaps some time will dance.

I'm glad you understand and sure, I'm ready to dance when you are

 

[hopelessly_addicted]

People no longer dance with anyone. Everyone is a professional so to speak, and the lifestyle was gone, replaced by competition and spandex.

This is so true how everyone is a pro or a salsa instructor these days..
It is such a pity that people like you, msjanemas, stop going out dancing salsa... of course if you don't enjoy anymore, not worthwhile doing it.. but for a person like myself who enjoys both the "flashy" side of salsa as well as salsa as a "lifestyle", i am sadden that not so many young people these days would get to experience the latter aspect of salsa.

 

[Twilight_Elena]

Why do people give up salsa for good or at least temporarily?

Because they're crazy, crazy sods! :shock: Give up salsa... pffh!

Here are some reasons I came up with:

-people who begin a relationship with someone who could not care less about dancing
-Boredom. Few places to choose from, and repetition of the same venue over and over again (in small scenes, naturally)
-Dissatisfaction for the salsa environment. People who find in it a dominant group culture, elistism and snobbery.

What are your views?

Tiago

-First of all, if a relationship is stopping you from doing something you enjoy a lot, then something's wrong with the relationship. Now, if you don't really care about it, then that's that. You never did care about salsa, and so didn't have any problem giving it up.
-Well. I only take classes once a week, with the same teacher, same people, same environment (practice parties), same DJ, same freaking day of the week, and I'm not bored! Instread, I look forward to every single lesson!
-That does not necessarily mean you have to give up salsa. There are always other venues, studios, clubs. There are some that are bad. Some that are newbie-friendly. Some that are plain rude. Taht goes for everything in life. If you give up dancing just because the environment was hostil, chances are you'll give up many things in your life.

And I say: Give up salsa while liking it? :shock: Loco!

Twilight Elena

 

[cocodrilo]

Why do people give up salsa for good or at least temporarily?

Because they're crazy, crazy sods! :shock: Give up salsa... pffh!

Here are some reasons I came up with:


-Boredom. Few places to choose from, and repetition of the same venue over and over again (in small scenes, naturally)
-Dissatisfaction for the salsa environment. People who find in it a dominant group culture, elistism and snobbery.

What are your views?

Tiago

And I say: Give up salsa while liking it? :shock: Loco!

Twilight Elena

T_E-
Once you've started hanging out at clubs and have totally immersed yourself in a salsa environment, you will thoroughly understand what Tiago has experienced. I have experienced the same thing, and it is why I have put the reins on my dancing habits.

 

[pygmalion]

Yeah. The club scene can be pretty snippy.