Youth/Amateur

Yuan Ren

New Member
If a young dancer competes in Amateur, can he/she go back to Youth/Junior if he/she is young enough?
 
AMATEUR is not an age group. Youths and Juniors are also Amateurs, unless they do something that violates the Amateur eligibility rules like enter a Professional competition or start advertising themselves as Professionals.

If you're asking if someone who has competed in Adult but who is still young enough to do a younger age group can go back to competing in that younger age group, the answer is "of course."
 
Laura, if you look on dancesportinfo
events are named in results as "amateur", "youth" or "professional"
rarely you see anything titled "adult amateur" and you never can see anything titled "youth amateur"
(probably because "pro youth" does not exist)
people are used to call events exactly that, as it appears in Blackpool results on dancesportinfo


also, technically amateur is not even amateur anymore, cause many of those dancers are very professional about what they do
in fact IDSF no longer uses the term amateur, which has been replaced by "dancesport athlete"
 
also, technically amateur is not even amateur anymore, cause many of those dancers are very professional about what they do in fact IDSF no longer uses the term amateur, which has been replaced by "dancesport athlete"
Well in that case, then Youths and Juniors are the only real amateurs left! Well, and I guess the Senior age groups too.

Anyway, Youth, Junior, Juvenile (Pre-teen), and Senior implies that they are Amateurs -- or rather "DanceSport Athletes", because there are no age groups in Professional events. However, it is possible -- although unlikely -- that someone who is young enough to be a Youth could also be a Professional. Like, didn't Annette Nicole turn Pro at age 16? As in, she danced in Professional events with Andrew Phillips....
 
"Amateur" used to be (sometimes still is) used to describe "Adult Open Amateur," as in age 19-34 Championship level.
 
Anyway, Youth, Junior, Juvenile (Pre-teen), and Senior implies that they are Amateurs -- or rather "DanceSport Athletes", because there are no age groups in Professional events.

and precisely because of that, when someone says "amateur" it is clear that they mean adult amateur.. everything else they'd be specifying an age category for
 
no. To many people they are either being unclear, talking about the entire non-professional dancesport population, or being rather arrogant in thinking that only their event/style/age matters.
 
no. To many people they are either being unclear, talking about the entire non-professional dancesport population, or being rather arrogant in thinking that only their event/style/age matters.

and there are also conventions and this is one of them
nothing to do with arrogance
 
Exactly. Since Adult Championship is usually the amateur event(s) with the most interest, that's what people refer to when using "shorthand." When someone asks, "Did you get to see the Amateur Standard?" most people know they're talking about Amateur Adult Championship Standard.
 
and there are also conventions ...

And unfortunately, some of the conventions are confusing to people who are new to competition. For example, I was recently informed that when someone (in reference to USA Dance events) uses the term "championship event," they mean all events that the USA Dance rules describe as "open" (i.e., novice, pre-champ and championship proficiency levels). A newcomer wonders why we can't be less ambiguous in our terminology conventions.
 
For example, I was recently informed that when someone (in reference to USA Dance events) uses the term "championship event," they mean all events that the USA Dance rules describe as "open" (i.e., novice, pre-champ and championship proficiency levels).
Really? Interesting. In my experience that term has always meant the Championship proficiency level.
 

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