At the end of the pandemic, maybe a new start?

You should dance over here, then, we have an abundance of them. ;-)
Okay, that's a fundamentally different situation, I can hardly imagine it. Well, in my memory, I often wanted to dance well enough for this or that woman(*), but not better than this or that man. There was less of a feeling of competition, more of a feeling like "we are the last of our kind", and that can be quite pleasant.

(*) Therefore, as a beginner, the situation at milongas was by no means pleasant for me, but that's part of the phenomenon.
 
To help your lead, or to actually learn to follow?

I took a number of following lessons earlier in my Tango journey, to help me understand how the lead worked, and how it should feel. That is very different from actually learning to follow.
I don’t know what it mean by the last statement. What would you do differently to learn actual following apart from dancing in that role in practicas. Or milongas.

I both took classes and learnt actual following through that. I don’t dance in follower’s role in milongas.
 
Can't say I'm terribly enthusiastic about it. Besides, at this point, no one really cares who you dance with or what role you assume. However, more women leaders means fewer women followers, and more competition among leaders.
While I have no problem dancing a tanda or two with a man, I do care about whom I am dancing with. I have a strong preference to dance with a female follower. If that dynamic in the dance community changes, I won’t be enthusiastic or regular dancer.

I see no danger of overwhelming women dancing in lead role or men in follower role. Very few women (that switch) who I see lead or have led are anywhere close to having decent leading skills. Similarly uniformly all men save one that I seen follow are pretty bad. Both are different skills that takes at least ten years to master to be good. Rarely are people who switch regularly are good at either role. They are also constitute less than 5% of the dancers. That’s been generous.
 
Very few women (that switch) who I see lead or have led are anywhere close to having decent leading skills.
Hmm. My view is different: female leaders are often the most musical on the floor, most visibly in milonga.

Male followers, I agree: most are pretty bad.
 
I see no danger of overwhelming women dancing in lead role or men in follower role. Very few women (that switch) who I see lead or have led are anywhere close to having decent leading skills. Similarly uniformly all men save one that I seen follow are pretty bad. Both are different skills that takes at least ten years to master to be good. Rarely are people who switch regularly are good at either role. They are also constitute less than 5% of the dancers. That’s been generous.
Largely true for the female leaders. Some of them can do it, but none I've seen around here. They mostly dance some stylized form of tango nuevo / tango salon mixed. There are some excellent followers who do role switching with other women but they don't do it often. Women leading men rarely works aesthetically. And floor craft is a whole other issue.
 
It will be very interesting to see how the dynamic changes - already, most of the teachers here do request their students to swap roles (some enforce it, some leave it up to the pair to decide) in class, and we have lady leader regulars in our local milongas too. I can follow (badly!), but I only allow my friends to lead me. The milongas here are ostensibly 'traditional' (as opposed to, say, the queer tango/'alternative' milongas I have been to), but role switching/dual roles do not raise eyebrows, and the atmosphere is more like a milonga del barrio at times. All I can reasonably predict is that the mood would become more ambiguous, for the lack of a better word.

As for leaving tango, or just not frequenting milongas that much, I think that when I do not have enough enjoyable dances as a leader (no exact number, just a feeling really), I will go less, regardless of whether female leading becomes commonplace or not. I love the music most of all, and focus on musicality perhaps a bit overmuch, so I can always listen to it at home. Alternatively, I can always DJ!
 
Hmm. My view is different: female leaders are often the most musical on the floor, most visibly in milonga.
I find them very musical but too static. I haven't lived the life of a female leader, so I cannot say why it is so, but when I'm dancing behind a female leader, I know that 4-5 metres of space will open up in front of them while I'm progressively more squeezed behind them. At least how I was taught, you move at once into open space – you do not dawdle, because it hurts everybody behind you. For female leaders, that seems to get lost somewhere along the line. It might simply be because women are on average shorter than men, and so can't see whether there's space to move into.
 
While female leaders could be as good or as bad as male leaders, they often are pretty bad at keeping the ronda. They are "Everything Everywhere All at Once" so to speak...
<sarcasm>I'm surprised they're let out behind the wheel of a car on the public highway, let alone as a truck driver, or ship's captain, or flying an aircraft, or space travel. Should know their place rather than multi-tasking.</sarcasm>
 
I find them very musical but too static. I haven't lived the life of a female leader, so I cannot say why it is so, but when I'm dancing behind a female leader, I know that 4-5 metres of space will open up in front of them while I'm progressively more squeezed behind them.
I agree that floorcraft tends to be the biggest weakness, but then again in London it's true of many male leaders too, albeit for different reasons.
 
Never happen for every individual, sure. But the single-role dancers may find themselves in a minority, just as dual-role dancers do today.

When I started as a leader 20 years ago, there was only 4-6 followers willing to dance with me. Rest of the group refused to share a tanda with me and the leaders were against it too. Today it has shifted. An appreciated female teacher has activated a lot of followers to test and start leading. The rumors tell that at some milongas the learning followers are dancing together ignoring the leaders they danced with before.
 
Today it has shifted. An appreciated female teacher has activated a lot of followers to test and start leading. The rumors tell that at some milongas the learning followers are dancing together ignoring the leaders they danced with before.
What you have learned and can apply, you also apply, at least if you have advantages from it, I think that's quite normal. Even men who have learned to follow will eventually use it to impress their partner.

But I'm in Spain right now, on Tenerife, and here are hardly any leading women (active), so that's just different. And next week I'll be here anyway at an event that's gender balanced. Maybe women are leading, but at least it's not necessary.
 

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