Big Event How to Ask

From posts here on DF (and it is easy to imagine), ladies prefer getting asked for the whole tanda. However... they much prefer getting asked for the last 2 songs of a tanda than sitting! If your GF is dancing, that is a good chance to spread a little joy.
That's an assumption that may or may not be true.
Maybe the lady will be horrified if you don't also dance the following tanda with her?
Maybe she accepts your invitation mainly because she only has to risk two dances with you?
You can only know whether you want to dance or not.
 
But I can also admit to myself that an unknown situation with unknown boundary conditions and especially with individuals cannot be planned. It may be enough to have a routine to retreat for a moment, to shake off the past and then move on.
I agree there. You can have some broad objectives/plan, but you may have to change that depending on circumstances. One extreme may be to give up and go home; another might be to dance every tanda with a different partner to great music.
 
If the event is organized only a few times per year and the participants are travelling a clear pattern can be created over the weekend. So pay attention if there are a lot of joyful hugs when people meet the first night. It can be a sign that the event has this pattern!

In that case the first night will be a Hello Again milonga where the participants are connecting to their old friends. The new participants may have difficulties to get invitations that night.

The following gatherings in the middle of the event are more Hello to My New Friends milongas.

The last milonga is for sure a Goodbye or Thanks for all Wonderful Dances milonga.

To experienced this was a chock, really frustrating and I am grateful for a friend explaining it for me! When I understood the pattern I could also accept that my invitations did not work and cope with the *miserable* start of an event! :)
 
To experienced this was a chock, really frustrating and I am grateful for a friend explaining it for me! When I understood the pattern I could also accept that my invitations did not work and cope with the *miserable* start of an event! :)
At a festival there should be different attractions, at an encuentro it is predominantly the participants themselves who make the participants come.

If you then see, for example on Facebook, a large conference room with accurate rows of chairs, possibly gender separated and at the same time there is supposed to be a very family atmosphere ... then you can carefully ask yourself whether you belong to this family or whether you can bridge the distances.

These experiences help me a lot when things look difficult for me at regular foreign milongas.
 
I'll be in a room with 100s of dancers, and almost all of them unknown to me. What strategies do you leaders have?
I haven't yet danced at many festivals, but so far I've always gone with at least one follower friend, as I'd say the single most important thing is to be seen dancing.
  • Look for a follower with "the uniform" (Tango shoes, knee length dress)
Nope. If a follower is at a festival, I assume she's there to dance, and don't equate traditional tango clothing with ability. However, if a woman is wearing flats and trousers, I'll make sure I've seen her following in case she only leads.
  • What is the greatest distance you'll try cabeceo?
My most-pleasing one ever was from one end of a milonga to the other! That was a follower who smiled broadly at me as I passed her seat while dancing the previous tanda.

Generally, I'll aim for about 20 feet or so – close enough to maximise the chance of my cabeceo being seen, not so close it feels like pressure.
  • Do you do a "walkeceo" or change seats each tanda to strive for spatial diversity?
As above, I'll walk to a good position to cabeceo my target followers.
 
However, if a woman is wearing flats and trousers, I'll make sure I've seen her following in case she only leads.
Good advice. I hate to sound old-fashioned or sexist – things I work hard to avoid being – but in tango, I've found it necessary to be attentive to the above. I'm a man who mostly leads women who follow, so I regard traditional follower garb, particularly high heels, as a useful shorthand. Once I'm certain that the person I want to invite follows, I don't care how she's dressed!
 
Good advice. I hate to sound old-fashioned or sexist – things I work hard to avoid being – but in tango, I've found it necessary to be attentive to the above. I'm a man who mostly leads women who follow, so I regard traditional follower garb, particularly high heels, as a useful shorthand. Once I'm certain that the person I want to invite follows, I don't care how she's dressed!
A friend of mine, good dancer, said he'd never dance with a woman in trousers. As far as I can tell, he pretty much followed that rule.
 
A friend of mine, good dancer, said he'd never dance with a woman in trousers. As far as I can tell, he pretty much followed that rule.
Personally, I can't find any correlation between the clothes and good tandas so far. But even where I see a correlation, like height and shape, there are some exceptions. So it doesn't seem particularly wise to me to restrict yourself by rules.
 
..can't find any correlation between the clothes and good tandas..
On wednesday before christmas i was at the most important milonga in my city (El Abrazo). Since I have broken knees, I dance in heavy braces (orthoses). So that these have enough space, I wear super wide baggy pants for dancing. At some point that evening, an unknown young woman hurried towards me and asked me to dance. Even during the first bars she said to me, I knew that you were a very good dancer, just because of the way you dressed. In fact, she was an excellent follower, too, everything was in a flow, everything felt right, very responsive, very flexible in the waist, stable axis. And she was cute too, harem's pants and ponytail!
 
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Personally, I can't find any correlation between the clothes and good tandas so far. But even where I see a correlation, like height and shape, there are some exceptions. So it doesn't seem particularly wise to me to restrict yourself by rules.
On the one hand, I agree with the basic idea that clothing doesn't matter. As I wrote, once I'm certain that the person I want to invite follows, I don't care how she's dressed. However, there's a hidden assumption in my statement: If I've watched a person dance, it inevitably means that I've learned not merely whether she follows, but also how well she follows and whether she does so in a fashion that suits my style of dance.

On the other hand, clothing can serve as a useful shorthand when you have only a few seconds to invite someone to dance. As I also wrote, traditional follower garb, particularly high heels, signals "I am a woman who dances in the follower role." However, that can backfire badly . . . In particular, a huge number of not-so-great-but-persistent dancers smokescreen their lack of ability with expensive outfits.

To be clear: I don't think this is specific to leaders observing followers! Followers should watch how leaders dance before accepting invitations from them, and definitely shouldn't take polished shoes and a sharp suit as a sign of anything but having the money and time to dress up. In a follower-heavy environment, many exceptional leaders are in such constant demand that they dance nonstop and end up with scuffed shoes, dusty trousers (from all those pasadas . . .), and a disheveled look.

In the balance, it seems that ignoring outfits is probably smartest. Better to watch how someone dances.
 
Even during the first bars she said to me, I knew that you were a very good dancer, just because of the way you dressed.
That's just words, though. I've had women tell me similar things: "Oh, you wear proper dance trousers and you have wear on your shoes. You must be a serious dancer!", but also, "Oh, you wear baggy trousers and an untucked, partly unbuttoned shirt. I thought you were one of those pretentious nuevo guys." Meh. It's just clothing.

But yes, I'm well aware that humans can be visual beings. Just the other night, I sweated out all my proper shirts and resorted to my emergency T-shirt for the final couple of tandas. This clearly changed who looked at me, with one woman actually remarking that I looked young and handsome in a T-shirt.
 

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