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salthepal said:
When I dance I don't focus as much on the intricacies of the composition; I focus more on what emotional responses they generate in me. Which is why I typically don't enjoy it when DJs play Astor Piazzolla. The music is brilliant of course, in ways I can't even describe. But does it inspire me to dance? Not very much. That was what I had in mind when I posted the OP.
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The emotional response is pretty important to me as well. With Piazzolla, some of it inspires me to dance, and some of it does not (which for me, is pretty much the same story with many artists).

I get what you mean about alternative music, even if there is some of it I like (although apparently not enough, compared to people that prefer alternative music). I'm much more likely with an alternative tanda, to sit out the first song (because it doesn't make me want to tango), and then the next song in the tanda, might invoke a completely different emotional response (and I'll want to tango to it). This was part of the point I was trying to make earlier in the thread, when I was whining about some alternative tandas (and the DJs who make them). I like tandas that invoke a similar emotional response for the entire tanda. The next tanda can have a different emotion.

The Neo / Electronic tango music can get old quickly, though.

In any case, here's one of my favorite alternative songs. Maybe you could see yourself tangoing to it, or maybe not.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgkBx8csEws
 
AndaBien said:
Nope, can't see it. OTOH, here's one I think is very danceable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6pLayYVVTE

It's too long, IMO, but I have a shorter version that is just right.
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Yeah, there are a lot of songs with the blues in them, that are good for tango (at least for me).

Here's one that I really like.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43yvS6bPZDs


Well, heading out to a milonga soon. To be continued on another day.

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opendoor said:
Already posted before, but a nice crossover of Blues and Vaudeville
Little drop of Poison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OasiDe4q57g
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I think a PSA (Public Safety Announcement) should be required when posting links involving Tom Waits singing (if it can be called that). I almost lost my lunch when he started with his noise.

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I'd like to hear the song with someone who actually can sing. I think I would like it (although I really didn't hear too much of it, as I couldn't close the browser fast enough, once Waits started).
 
dchester said:
I think a PSA (Public Safety Announcement) should be required when posting links involving Tom Waits singing (if it can be called that). I almost lost my lunch when he started with his noise.

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I'd like to hear the song with someone who actually can sing. I think I would like it (although I really didn't hear too much of it, as I couldn't close the browser fast enough, once Waits started).
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hey lay off Tom Waits; if you dont like him fine but saying he cant sing.is simply untrue..

and little drop of Poison is great to tango to. You probably wont like this either..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkAmGqbD-bg
and its not Tom Waits
 
Peaches said:
well, of course if you're talking about someone who is sufficiently trained getting more out of reading the score. And this is relevant to this discussion and this thread and the general question of "is it tango" and most tango dancers ...how? Without a solid grounding in music, which most people neither have nor seem to want to acquire, it is pointless, if not actually unhelpful. I would gather that the resistance around here is coming from the fact that most people thought we were talking about most tango dancers, not highly trained musicians.

Oh, and quite possibly reacting to the impression of astounding arrogance that comes across in your posts, to say nothing of the outright rudeness of at least one post.
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c'mon Peaches, astounding arrogance is a prequisite for dancing tango (if you're a man).

I dont disagree with what he says about understanding the score, but for for most of us it isnt an option, so we have to rely on our senses and the odd mucusiality workshop that comes our way..
 
bordertangoman said:
c'mon Peaches, astounding arrogance is a prequisite for dancing tango (if you're a man).
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:)


@Peaches:
Peaches I enjoy reading your posts (well not the last one) and please do not take this with offence. None is meant.

I find many of your posts dismissive (punctuated with *snort*, *heh*, *shrug*). I find them amusing and of value. While you are never rude, they could also be interpreted as highly arrogant. Just sayin'

As I said, I like reading your posts and I'm not attacking you.
 
Subliminal said:
In regards to the original post, I think sometimes tango is is taken way too seriously on this forum. My first teacher plays almost entirely traditional music at her milonga, but once or twice during the evening she throws in a Swing/Salsa/Bachata/Cha Cha tanda. People either sit out, or dance, or laughingly go out and fake it as best they can. She also plays a couple of the more melodic electric tango sets during the evening. And at the very end, usually ends the dance with a chacarera. This is how she said the milongas she grew up with were like. They were social neighborhood gatherings. Some people would just go to eat, or drink, or hang out with their friends... not even dancing.

Given that this was my first impression of what tango and a milonga are supposed to be like, it boggles my mind how people look for a rigid definition of what tango is. Tango is people getting together and dancing because dancing is FUN. Tango is living. Tango is what the community dances. And now that community includes the world.

Rather than ask "but is it tango" why not ask, "Why doesn't the community do a better job in policing bad dancers? Why don't people get involved in DJing rather than complain about what music is played?"
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Great points! Which is why I emphasize good floorcraft to my student (I am a volunteer teacher btw) and DJ frequently :)
 
In regards to the original post, I think sometimes tango is is taken way too seriously on this forum. My first teacher plays almost entirely traditional music at her milonga, but once or twice during the evening she throws in a Swing/Salsa/Bachata/Cha Cha tanda. People either sit out, or dance, or laughingly go out and fake it as best they can. She also plays a couple of the more melodic electric tango sets during the evening. And at the very end, usually ends the dance with a chacarera. This is how she said the milongas she grew up with were like. They were social neighborhood gatherings. Some people would just go to eat, or drink, or hang out with their friends... not even dancing.
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A long time ago, and sporadically throughout my invovlement with AT, I have seen accounts of "milongas" in the Golden Age that tell us that music from other genres, such as swing, and or jazz, and including live bands which obviously didn't play just one song but entire sets of music, could be found as an alternative during the same event.

This is similar to what ballrooms in the US were like during the swing era. By some accounts there would be a small group who danced swing, while the great majority of dancers would mostly be doing foxtrot. Also, "swing bands" played blues, waltzes, ballads, etc.

The segregation of dances we see now, is relatively new, it seems to me.
 
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