Dave Bailey
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Oh yes, I always get those confused.Isn't that Counter ClockWise?
In that case, rotate to the right
CE question to leaders-the CW giro, how do you begin it?
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In that case, rotate to the right
Subliminal
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Oh yes, I always get those confused.
In that case, rotate to the right
Add "Make space for the follower to move into" and yeah, I think that's it.
Dave Bailey
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I think it's worth emphasizing that this actually works from any position, with the follower on any foot. You don't actually need to do extensive preparation or anything.Add "Make space for the follower to move into" and yeah, I think that's it.
If you rotate correctly, and the follower follows correctly, you can start and stop a giro at any point. It's simply a set of pivots and steps, after all.
Sure, some points are more convenient, conventional, or smooth to start and stop on, but they're not mandatory.
Mind you, I almost never do a CE clockwise giro anyway, I find it a bit awkward.
bordertangoman
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i HAVE An image of one of those clockwork mice that turn left when they meet an obstacle :lol:
It is not, but you shoud have very good balance, and very good dissociation to create momentum for turning.
Tango shoes are mandatory.
That was done quite poorly in the video.
This was a nice video. I like their style.
borisvian13
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Really? You sound so sure... Could please give a video example where this is done, that is, the same counter giro in completely close, milonguero style embrace. Or if that's not possible, you could take a video of yourself doing it and post it for us.
P.S. The video by Andres Laza Moreno's video above is obviously in V-shaped embrace. So Mario, look closer at the close embrace, please
bordertangoman
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here you go, another example;
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Ampster
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By Jorge Torres, nonetheless. He uses enrosques!
Captain Jep
Active Member
where's the close embrace here? (nice though)
I like Homer Ladas' video for this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgkbisJOpPM
I like Homer Ladas' video for this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgkbisJOpPM
Really? You sound so sure... Could please give a video example where this is done, that is, the same counter giro in completely close, milonguero style embrace. Or if that's not possible, you could take a video of yourself doing it and post it for us.
P.S. The video by Andres Laza Moreno's video above is obviously in V-shaped embrace. So Mario, look closer at the close embrace, please
On Andres lamza video is nicely done so look closely.
It's easy when you have requirements and both partners know to perform giro.
Having those requirements take time and practice.
Practice only rotation after full dissociation to the side in open embrace on a spot, and then in close embrace.
Later do it after making a forward step.
Your embrace should be soft and while doing that giro, have momentum so you can do a giro in double time.
You should always have flexible embrace, not only when you are supressing partner's energy when you are playing with free leg.
That embrace mustn't be loose embrace, she must feel it.
Having very good dissociation is requirement for dancing tango very well.
Mario7
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P.S. The video by Andres Laza Moreno's video above is obviously in V-shaped embrace. So Mario, look closer at the close embrace, please
OK, you got me and I'm not even going to go back and check. I remember that I felt a little 'guilty' when I was posting it.
But I may have to modify my own embrace soon and go to the V embrace...I simply don't have a partner to practice with and so it will have to wait. For sure, there will be a new thread if/when that occurs.
Mario7
Member
I appreciate your advice on practice sequences. I'm always looking for such ideas. That being said, I on only get small value from practicing a move in open hold first. It always seems like a very different dance to me.
Also, the standing in one spot always seems more difficult than taking a step first. The momentum of the step is a definate help. thanks for the clear thinking though!
Also, thanks to the others for the videos..the Ladas one I've studied already and the Torres one is interesting in how he teaches...he looks like he teaches well, lovely enrosques, too! I may just study enrosques with this video..the last one is to die for!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqosrfYn24Y&feature=player_embedded
Maybe I did't write later in close embrace.
So during the dance you will have perfect balance, and you will be able find all nuances between OE and CE balance.
Generally I practice first in OE cause it's more forgiving than CE
It is not a sequence, it is technique practice
great video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6OFtY6azV8
while having good dissociation you can make parada in CE, back sacada, and enrosque. 8)
So during the dance you will have perfect balance, and you will be able find all nuances between OE and CE balance.
Generally I practice first in OE cause it's more forgiving than CE
It is not a sequence, it is technique practice
great video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6OFtY6azV8
while having good dissociation you can make parada in CE, back sacada, and enrosque. 8)
Dave Bailey
Active Member
Ummm... I don't think that's a good example of a giro, to be honest. They're lovely dancers, of course, but the first "sidestep" is a change of weight only, and the last backstep is planeo-y (or "ronde-y" if you prefer).