ALL the women from France I have met in tango in my 16 years of experience in tango, dance closed embrace. I never asked the city where they learned. If I do not see previously her closed embrace dancing with other guys in the milonga, I would not likely pay much attention to her or cabeceo her. I have never been in France.
I lost sight of the milonguero movement meanwhile. For me the introduction of the Campeonato Mundial in 2003 and the recognition of the Tango as a UNESCO World Heritage in 2009 forced this style into the background, as Escenario and Urquiza (aka Salón) dominated the public perception. Milonguero style (aka Apilado, del Centro, Confitería) was considered rather kind of mean urban folklore. But Susana Miller, Mónica Paz and María Plazaola seem not to have given up. Alone Carlos Espinoza hasn't so far undone his conversion to the salón style.
That's great news! The bridges break behind me and at some point I will be able to dance in close embrace, largely without much competition. Let's not kid ourselves, many tangueras can be won over very quickly.
I see Campeonato Mundial as an attempt to bring cash to the battered and mismanaged Argentine economy. It is 90% for foreigners who actually believe escenrio is tango, and who say to enjoy it. Ask any old milonguer@ in a real milonga in Buenos Aires (like El Beso, Los Consagrados, Cachirulo and the like) about the so called “campeonato”, and most people are not even aware of it. Milonga hosts and some milonguer@s become aware because of the presence of many tourists in the local real milongas.
What's wrong with that?
Let's wait and see.
...absolutely nothing.
I do not. In over 26 years visiting and living in Argentina, mostly in Buenos Aires, I have never even visited La Boca, where the "campeonato" is run. I do not watch TV.
Well, I don't like the prevalent style of dancing in the competition, but I still unfortunately have to deal with it because some people in milongas insist on dancing this way. (and you all know I can't be described as conservative)
I think if you could be described as conservative, then such requests would be brought up to you less often.
I for one vary the style dependent on the music. Apilado with Narcotango would feel strange, doesn't it?
I guess it's because of the times and the music to which you were socialized as a dancer.
It's not really to do with my partners, it's the other couples on the floor. I prefer not to have to deal with people doing large jerky moves all the time no matter what music is playing, it's annoying.I think if you could be described as conservative, then such requests would be brought up to you less often.
I think Narcotango and a lot of the other slower modern music is better suited to smooth, intimate, mostly close embrace than open.
Of course, but it is very much a matter of your personal preference. But I also see the music in terms of the time in which it was created and what style the target group danced. Guardia vieja requires canyengue. Tango in salón style would not suit d‘Arienzo's music. Apilado would feel strange to Pugliese. And the crowd that danced to Narcotango of course followed Chicho's first style.
I totally agree.... it’s incredibly annoying to dance next to a couple (or Lead) that doesn’t know how to take small steps....
I also don't like those who know how, but do not follow the prevailing style of that venue or tanda.