Emphasized pauses and jerky moves in your community?

[LadyLeader]

We have had 1-3 dancers having this style in town. The most significant are the emphasized stops and the fast, even jerky moves before the next stop. DNI was here in May for the Europe tour and the couple has developed a significant clear style on this. The filming and editing videos give me an opportunity to watch them several times. At the time for posting I was more familiar with it so it was quite ok for the vals but for milonga this staccato style was IMO still too much and the view numbers show the same trend.



When DNI picks up something it will be developed among their students too so I wonder if this is visible and growing at your milongas, practicas?

What do you think about the style?

To my eye Shanzes and Naveria seems to be heading in the same direction


What do you think?

 

[JohnEm]

We have had 1-3 dancers having this style in town. The most significant are the emphasized stops and the fast, even jerky moves before the next stop. DNI was here in May for the Europe tour and the couple has developed a significant clear style on this. The filming and editing videos give me an opportunity to watch them several times. At the time for posting I was more familiar with it so it was quite ok for the vals but for milonga this staccato style was IMO still too much and the view numbers show the same trend.


What do you think about the style?

To my eye Shanzes and Naveria seems to be heading in the same direction


What do you think?

They are dance performances, of a rather contrived style
to attract attention and innocent (naive?) pupils.

It's a yet another commercial dance school teaching a dance style
inappropriate for social dancing alongside other couples
on a dancefloor. Does anything else really need to be said?

 

[Cal]

I liked it. It put some light and shade into the dance - another option for musicality and interpretation. Having said that, I don't like having an entire dance of only light or only shade, so I didn't care for the Sanchez demonstration very much.

 

[opendoor]

It looks like a bad copy of Los Totis. When I first saw one of their performances, I rubbed my eyes.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

What do you think?

I think I don't like what they are doing. Nonetheless, I'm with JohnEm on the fact that they are performers and trying to present a "unique" style with their own choreography. That's fine but it's not social tango and I'd hate to see this on the dance floor.

By the way, who or what is "DNI"?
Also, the last two videos are "unavailable."

 

[LadyLeader]

I think I don't like what they are doing. Nonetheless, I'm with JohnEm on the fact that they are performers and trying to present a "unique" style with their own choreography. That's fine but it's not social tango and I'd hate to see this on the dance floor.

By the way, who or what is "DNI"?
Also, the last two videos are "unavailable."

IMO the performers can survive only if the crowd appreciates their dance so their freedom is actually quite limited. We have had a few leaders (non-performers) with this style at milongas for maybe two years - it is not just a spice here and there, but the whole tandas are like this.

Is your posting indicating that this is not happening at the milongas you visit?

DNI an argentine tango school with filials in other countries https://dni-tango.com/?lang=en
(I do not know why they are not available for you; maybe some music origin conflict for your region)

 

[LadyLeader]

It looks like a bad copy of Los Totis. When I first saw one of their performances, I rubbed my eyes.

You are right there!
I remember when I saw the stops for the first time but still they have a lot more flow in their performances than here.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

IMO the performers can survive only if the crowd appreciates their dance so their freedom is actually quite limited. We have had a few leaders (non-performers) with this style at milongas for maybe two years - it is not just a spice here and there, but the whole tandas are like this.

Is your posting indicating that this is not happening at the milongas you visit?

Umm. Who cares about the performers? I don't understand the need in the first place. I haven't seen people dancing like this either in performance or socially. Well, socially some people do something similar but locally people do all kinds of crazy so what on the dance floor, most of which I dislike. However, it's not a common style, no. Fortunately.

 

[opendoor]

Who cares about the performers..

DNI is known for their good education, not for their performances. Being honest, I dont like Dana´s shows. But she educated hundreds of brilliant teachers that know they job pretty well.

 

[Rabbit]

We have had 1-3 dancers having this style in town. The most significant are the emphasized stops and the fast, even jerky moves before the next stop. DNI was here in May for the Europe tour and the couple has developed a significant clear style on this. The filming and editing videos give me an opportunity to watch them several times. At the time for posting I was more familiar with it so it was quite ok for the vals but for milonga this staccato style was IMO still too much and the view numbers show the same trend.

What do you think about the style?

ignoring the choreography:

The musicality in the waltz isn't bad at all, they switch up their dynamics according to changes in the music, and doing sharp movements works in these staccato waltzes. I don't like the milonga interpretation though. They follow the rhythm of the melodic line very accurately, but too literally, and the result is there's too much pausing and not enough humour.

To my eye Shanzes and Naveria seems to be heading in the same direction

I don't understand this one - why work so hard on your technique and then make the dance look weird by constantly bending your knees a lot and waving your arm around randomly?

 

[Rabbit]

We have had a few leaders (non-performers) with this style at milongas for maybe two years - it is not just a spice here and there, but the whole tandas are like this.

I think there are a few leaders dancing like this everywhere (it's probably influenced by the competitions), and while it works for d'Arienzo variations, dancing every tanda in exaggerated staccato style all the time demonstrates an extremely poor understanding of the music.

 

[Steve Pastor]

See the music, hear the dance.

I had a really good day last Sunday at the practica.
The last tanda had the more challenging pieces of Piazolla and Pugliese, and I had a partner who was up to the challenge. I hadn't watched "The Tango Lesson" for a Long time, so that evening, as I watched the scene where Sally dances with famous AT guys at the milonga, I was thinking that there was more "dancing through" (not reflecting the "double time" and/or short pauses at the end of phrases) some of the sections than I would do.

Most of what I see in the YouTube clips looks like the music I hear. Sometimes, when you look at the sheet music for a song, you can see the rests or a section of 1/16? notes in the treble part. Sometimes the bass line will have a rest. They are there if you listen for them.

Some of what they do is exagerated, of course. But, as someone wrote not too long ago, many "performancey" moves can be danced socially with sufficient attention to, and respect for those around you.

Would I dance like that to Bahia Blanca? Of course not.
I would not hestitate to use some of this as examples if someone wanted to talk about "musicality."

 

[ArbeeNYC]

DNI is known for their good education, not for their performances. Being honest, I dont like Dana´s shows. But she educated hundreds of brilliant teachers that know they job pretty well.

Oh, it's a school. OK. Well, I'm not familiar with what they do or their instructors.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

DNI an argentine tango school with filials in other countries https://dni-tango.com/?lang=en
(I do not know why they are not available for you; maybe some music origin conflict for your region)

Oh, a tango school. No, I was not aware of them.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

What do you think?

OK. Now I've had the chance to see all three videos. I dislike the milongas even more than the vals. With respect to the milonga, since you asked, there are a couple of leaders who dance a bit like this--rapid stops and starts repeatedly throughout the dance. It's a way to play with the music but I don't care for it aesthetically.