Fast Tango or Milonga
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bastet
Active Member
yes- i suppose that would be me as well...but in general, just listening to milonga tends to make me more smiley.
Mario7
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wcKFnUI-YU&feature=related
This Milonga video will demonstate the Milonga beat in a very pronounced
manner as the instruments are minor and do not drown it out.
Just listen for this beat when a fast number is being played..if you hear it
sounding like this, it's a Milonga....simple!
It took me about 5 weeks to figure this out but once I did, I never was in
doubt again.
This Milonga video will demonstate the Milonga beat in a very pronounced
manner as the instruments are minor and do not drown it out.
Just listen for this beat when a fast number is being played..if you hear it
sounding like this, it's a Milonga....simple!
It took me about 5 weeks to figure this out but once I did, I never was in
doubt again.
Angel HI
Well-Known Member
Actually...Libertango is a milonga. Many persons do not know that, and, yes, we all dance tango to it...for whatever reason.
Peaches
Well-Known Member
Ha!
I love Libertango, because of how interesting it is. Especially for the whole tango v. milonga debate.
Personally, I hear it as a normal-speed tango...with a lot of filigree.
bastet
Active Member
Listening to it, I can hear either possibility.
However, if I listen to it as a milonga it is very slow and then dancing milonga rhythm your dance would be too slow for the melody line, it would seem...I wonder if Piazolla created it this way to cause ambiguity. It wouldn't surprise me.
I have most often seen it danced as tango becasue I guess it fits the melody and when I was in one milonga class, Oliver Kolker used it as an axample of fast tango melody when someone responded to his question of "what makes a song milonga" and they said "fast" rather than the Habanera rhythm.
I don't particularly like the song myself (call me barbaric, I guess) and only hear it if someone else plays it but that's just me. I prefer slower Piazolla songs for listening and possible dancing.
bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
Well I like it because I remember and love Grace Jones version: "I've seen that face before"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZRTbjpFCF4
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41I5CQDgBA&feature=related
if a milonga why didnt Piazzolla call it Libermilonga? I remain unconvinced
opendoor
Forum Master
Hi HockSiew,
the difference is: tango has a 4/4 beat and Milonga a 2/2. Milonga is kind of argentine polka.
@ Angel
I think its a tango, but I usually dance milonga to it ;-)
Greetings
the difference is: tango has a 4/4 beat and Milonga a 2/2. Milonga is kind of argentine polka.
@ Angel
I think its a tango, but I usually dance milonga to it ;-)
Greetings
You might want to look through the sheet music available at this url.
http://www.todotango.com/english/biblioteca/partituras/partituras.asp
It is by no means that simple.
I no longer repeat what you have written regarding the time signature, because I don't feel it is supported by what I see on the sheet music.
http://www.todotango.com/english/biblioteca/partituras/partituras.asp
It is by no means that simple.
I no longer repeat what you have written regarding the time signature, because I don't feel it is supported by what I see on the sheet music.
I just happen to have Tango The Art History of Love in front of me, so I could quickly look it up.
In Kongo and Angola it menat "melt to the music," "step it down," "start to party."
"Canyengue is the pure essence of the beginning of tango around 1900"
Canyengue was bent forward and crouching verses the "resolutely vertical torso" of tango criollo (native tango of Argentine born compadritos and creolized Italian immagrants, the and later styles of liso and salon.
She falls on his chest. He falls on her chest. The pressure is shared as both bend their knees.
Leaning performed solo by Afro Argentines met the two person lean of the polka.
The blacks carried one hand down to the level of the hips, and the white toughs picked up on this.
The short steps of canyengue follow the beat which does not permit taking long steps.
Etc etc
Dunno. It's a bit much to sort through.
I remember when an Argentine man told us that milonga was a black person's dance, so we shouldn't dance it stiff and straight, after hearing pretty much the opposite from many other teachers. He was right, of course, but how the music sounds still determines how I move, milonga, tango, whatever.
In Kongo and Angola it menat "melt to the music," "step it down," "start to party."
"Canyengue is the pure essence of the beginning of tango around 1900"
Canyengue was bent forward and crouching verses the "resolutely vertical torso" of tango criollo (native tango of Argentine born compadritos and creolized Italian immagrants, the and later styles of liso and salon.
She falls on his chest. He falls on her chest. The pressure is shared as both bend their knees.
Leaning performed solo by Afro Argentines met the two person lean of the polka.
The blacks carried one hand down to the level of the hips, and the white toughs picked up on this.
The short steps of canyengue follow the beat which does not permit taking long steps.
Etc etc
Dunno. It's a bit much to sort through.
I remember when an Argentine man told us that milonga was a black person's dance, so we shouldn't dance it stiff and straight, after hearing pretty much the opposite from many other teachers. He was right, of course, but how the music sounds still determines how I move, milonga, tango, whatever.