Has Buenos Aires lost its tango soul?

[opendoor]

Cacho Dante said something like this in the interview: "There were the milongueros... and there were the dancers."

I remember that sentence differently, kind of: there were those milongueros.. but we considered ourselves to be real dancers. And at that time, Cacho, according to his own perception, danced tango de salón. From here I can't judge whether his self-assessment is accurate. However, he did mention in that interview an very important argument that supports this viewpoint: ...we only danced to Pugliese. I interpret that as to say, his clique was quite arrogant, because the milongueros could only dance to d'Arienzo. I was also confronted with d'Arienzo when I moved from milonguero style to Villa Urquiza: we here mainly dance to Pugliese, was the code of conduct my teacher back then asked for. Since you now want to explore the Mundial style yourself, you can share your experiences. The winners of the first competitions were trained by Rosa Forte, the flagship of Villa Urquiza.

 

[itwillhappen]

I remember that sentence differently, kind of: there were those milongueros.. but we considered ourselves to be real dancers.

To be precise, it was a bit different than in our memories:




And regarding the "tango milonguero":

 

[Steve Pastor]

I came across this 2007 post from the (old?) Tango-L that I participated in Until I was unceremoniously kicked off the site.

Re: [Tango-L] In the land of the blind, the one-eyed..etc.

www.mail-archive.com

"In 1987, and probably for decades or a century previous, a very simple form of
close embrace was prevalent in the center of town, but not in other barrios. "

The next few posts are also kind of interesting.

Here's another share that I learned about from one time frequent contributor JanTango.
It's given me a bit of insight into why I prefer and miss the weight sharing style I learned years ago.

 

[opendoor]

Richard Feynman was one of my mayor influences, Steve !

 

[itwillhappen]

The next few posts are also kind of interesting.

Here's another share that I learned about from one time frequent contributor JanTango.
It's given me a bit of insight into why I prefer and miss the weight sharing style I learned years ago.

Who created the content, who is shown there, and above all: what exactly is displayed on the board?!

 

[JohnEm]

Who created the content, who is shown there, and above all: what exactly is displayed on the board?!

All of the channels abusing the name of Richard Feinman are AI generated and most of the explanations are way outside what was his actual expertise - physics. It is a mystery how he has created all these videos when he died in 1988. The throwawy of all those pictorial diagrams is a also a giveaway. Watch the appearance and disappearance of a multitude of unexplained formulae, I have even seen Einsteins E=etc
formula come and go. It's not that you might learn something because they are obviously AI summations of whatever topic has been thrown at it. Just don't be bemusded by the unwarranted, even false, attribution and definitely not by the constant diagram bombardment.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

Cacho Dante said something like this in the interview: "There were the milongueros... and there were the dancers."

I don't believe that the sophisticated construct called "Milonguero Style" here in Europe has much to do with the robust dance style of the historical milongueros.

Interesting. In what ways do you think they differ? Aside from the fact that old-school milongueros are not doing the dancing?

 

[ArbeeNYC]

To be precise, it was a bit different than in our memories:

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And regarding the "tango milonguero":

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Thanks for the clarification. He's not criticizing milongueros, he's simply stating that they were had a bad reputation. Which has been reported elsewhere many times before. He's making a distinction between what he and other milongueros did and what Mingo Pugliese and others like him did.