High bun or low bun hair for competition?

open_mind

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I compete pro am and can’t help noticing that most am ladies of pro am couples in Standard do high bun hair for comps. However, after searching very recent championship level amateur events on YouTube, I see almost all ladies have low buns. Why? I am a huge fan of a low bun hairdo and I think it looks good on me, but my pro insists I do high bun to ‘show my neckline’. Are there any other good reasons to do one or another or is it a matter of personal preference?
 
I do both, and when I do hair for others, I do both... and sometimes completely rebel and do it to one side.

Factors that make me opt for low bun:
- the hair is a little too short to reach a high pony, and is too thick for "apply tons of gel and hope" to be a reliable strategy to make high hair work
- I/the dancer have/has a headache
- the dancer is taller than their partner
- the dress style seem to call for it
- the dancer prefers it

Factors that make me opt for high bun:
- youth
- wearing it for two days (I find it easier to sleep on)
- the dancer has a shorter neck
- the dress style seems to call for it
- the dancer prefers it

I got the same advice when I started (high bun to show of the neckline). As I improved and learned to carry my head well, I started to experiment with my hair. I tend to do it differently for every comp - but have a few back-pocket easy go-tos that I know I can rely on (that I tend to use for shows).
 
Before I cut my hair short, I always wore a high bun, partly because my partner is significantly taller than me, but mostly because it looks much better on me. My face somehow looks pulled down and dowdy when framed with tight downward hair, while pulling the hair up and back lifts everything. But I was always jealous of the people in low buns, because it looks seriously classy on the right head/face shape. Plus I was always fighting that one vertical lump up the back of my head to the high ponytail; that was the hardest part of the head for me to get smooth.
 
I generally do a low bun just because I have a LOT of hair so a high bun feels heavier than a low one. Plus it seems easier to get a low bun to look neat. Also I've only ever done competitions where I've done latin as well and low bun is more latin-y to me (other than Oxana Lebedew, it seems like most of the ladies wear low buns.) I'm doing a ballroom only comp later this year so maybe I'll try a high hairstyle for that one.

End of the day, you should do what suits you and what you like/are able to do. Sometimes standing out from the crowd can be good in a competition environment. :)
 
My personal preference for my own hair has always been a high bun. I have a long neck so I want the line to be exposed, and the weight of the bun helps remind me to keep my head back in the smooth dances. I also agree with @bia that pulling hair tightly up is more face-flattering than pulling it tightly down (especially for women “of a certain age” like me). For lessons I wear it in a bun at the back/middle of my head, neither high nor low, or sometimes just a ponytail if we’re working on rhythm.

But for my first comp, Pro told me to wear it completely slicked back in a low bun. He demonstrated with my ponytail during a lesson. I held my hair at (what I thought was) the base of my skull, and asked, “you mean, like here?” He grasped my ponytail and pulled it much lower, saying, “no, here. And use lots of spray and gel and other products to make everything very flat and tight to your head.” [Yuck. Although the final look was okay - I am vain enough to admit I have great cheekbones - it really didn’t suit my personal taste.]

Based on my own experience, it seems that SO MUCH of an Am’s competition look depends on her Pro’s individual preferences, from hairstyle to dress style to shoe style and heel height.

Or maybe I just have a really opinionated Pro. ;)
 
Based on my own experience, it seems that SO MUCH of an Am’s competition look depends on her Pro’s individual preferences, from hairstyle to dress style to shoe style and heel height.

Or maybe I just have a really opinionated Pro. ;)

I had a low bun in the last virtual comp... because my pro wanted it low, and then did it for me.
 
My hair is too short to need a bun, but here's what I hear from my partners and teammates and coaches that do.

Look-wise, its a matter of preference, mostly. But the height of your bun can greatly change the way your head-weight is organized, and a higher bun generally requires more posture discipline (especially if you have unusually long and heavy hair) So part of the decision on whether to do a low bun or a high one should include which orientation allows you, personally, to control your head-weight better--and make sure you practice sometimes with your hair in the same place!

Examples:
My competition partner prefers a mid-high bun in order to lengthen her vertical line. She has *extremely* long hair (well below her waist), so she can't make it too high or she starts to feel neck strain due to the weight and leverage, in Standard. But her posture discipline is good enough to control a higher bun. In Latin-only events, she wears her hair so high it is practically a topknot.

On my side, I can actually feel the difference in our frame when she ties her hair at different heights. It is that significant. Probably because her hair is, by her own admission, ridiculous.

My wife, on the other hand prefers a low bun. She feels her neckline already looks pretty long without help, and she doesn't feel that confident about managing her head-weight. The low bun basically just keeps her hair out of her way.
 
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If you have a LOT of hair like me then you have to do a mid and a low bun, otherwise my hair will fly everywhere after a tango head snap even if I put 100 pins and make my bun a fortress... a high bun is simply impossible to secure. UNLESS I get hair done by a professional. Nada is impossible for them. That's why we pay them, no?

Agree with fiesta a high(er) bun needs much better posture discipline ... On that note... maybe I should wear high-pony to my practice just to discipline my posture. You just gave me a very good idea.
 
Based on my own experience, it seems that SO MUCH of an Am’s competition look depends on her Pro’s individual preferences, from hairstyle to dress style to shoe style and heel height.

Or maybe I just have a really opinionated Pro. ;)
Both.... :D

But, I am of a certain age, and a really slicked style makes me look older than I am. I need my hair softer, of course it still doesn't move.

I stopped listening to my pro, when I was told to wear a tight slick hair, in a long braid at the base of my neck. I did what he asked. OMG!! I looked 10 years older, than I am, but didn't realize it until I saw the pictures later... :eek:o_O Plenty of backcomb and hairspray and I have a different look that works for me. From that point forward I select my hair and dresses. I know what compliments my face and figure.. Sorry, not listening to a young man who has never had to dress a curvy body.
 
Sorry, not listening to a young man who has never had to dress a curvy body.
Hahahahaha! I hear you! But my pro is not a young man...he’s only 6 years younger than I am. And his wife is VERY curvy, although about 5 inches shorter than me. So he has lots of experience with dressing a curvy body (or at least knowing what does & does not work on one).

But I think you’re absolutely right - we know what works for us better than anyone else. And even if we’re wrong about that, self-confidence matters just as much as the hairstyle itself. So wearing a style that makes you feel good about yourself, and confident that you look as good as you can, is super important.

OMG!! I looked 10 years older, than I am, but didn't realize it until I saw the pictures later... :eek:o_O
Argh! Now I’m nervous. Previously, I said my final look was okay. But I haven’t seen any good pictures yet - just a snapshot on my phone that DH took before I left the house. And it is an awful pic, but I thought it was from the lighting where I stood, and from DH not waiting till I “posed” before taking it. Sigh.

I am of a certain age, and a really slicked style makes me look older than I am. I need my hair softer, of course it still doesn't move.
Can you describe the softer look, and/or show me some examples? I have bangs (a fringe), so I think maybe I could curl them up and back to form a sort of rounded frame above my forehead. But this last time, I used approximately a pound and a half of Got2BeGlued gel AND hairspray, and my bangs still did not stay flat or even adhere to my head (I got so annoyed I contemplated using eyelash glue, but decided against it). So I ended up using a dozen of these spiral rhinestone pins to lock the hair in place.

Note to self: search for DF threads on dealing with bangs wrt comp hairstyles.
 
Plenty of backcomb and hairspray
:oops:o_O:eek:
I had to google backcombing, and I’m horrified at the thought of how difficult and time-consuming it would be for me to UNDO that method. It already required four - FOUR - shampoos to remove all the product I used, after about 30 minutes of painstaking (and painful) picking apart the rock-hard clumps of hair.

Note to self: search for DF threads on the best methods for removing ungodly amounts of products from one’s hair (that do not involve actually shaving one’s head).
 
:oops:o_O:eek:
I had to google backcombing, and I’m horrified at the thought of how difficult and time-consuming it would be for me to UNDO that method. It already required four - FOUR - shampoos to remove all the product I used, after about 30 minutes of painstaking (and painful) picking apart the rock-hard clumps of hair.

Note to self: search for DF threads on the best methods for removing ungodly amounts of products from one’s hair (that do not involve actually shaving one’s head).
I found that using conditioner rather than shampoo for my first coat worked wonders. I sort of melted the style, softened the rock hard clumps, and made the product easier to shampoo out.
I watched dozens ballroom hair tutorials and tried a few on myself. That has been very helpful experience in terms of knowing how to do my hair myself, and knowing what really looks good on me. I usually have someone do my hair for comps. For the most part, I have been spared the slicked back look. Sadly, I let someone fix the slicked back, braid in the back look and I regretted it. Now, I might be willing to experiment with some hairstyles, but they can't include a look that I know is not flattering on me.
 

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