How is Ballroom Dancing like a Relationship / Marriage?

I incorporate some of these concepts into my regular dance classes. It's predominantly about dance, but I sometimes draw a correlation between lead and follow and marriage so as to illustrate the importance of teamwork. I talk about empathy, looking at how to improve yourself rather than blame your partner... Basically everything people have suggested here. I don't make a big deal of it, just work it in here and there. So I don't know that it's necessary to structure a whole class on this alone, unless you're marketing it as a relationship improvement workshop and have the credentials to do so.

Thanks for your input, these are some very good points. I'm certainly not a therapist, and don't want to misrepresent my credentials. On the other hand, I have a lot to offer - so i'm looking for the right venue and outlet. Realistically, it's turning into a two part project - a book portion, about the relationship side, and a dance syllabus that's about the dance side, but with references to the written material.

Right now, i'm tackling the hard stuff first - teaching dance patterns is easy. The hard stuff are things like how to lead, how to follow, communicate through a frame, building trust in your partner. These are the things that everyone talks ABOUT but never explains HOW. So I'll see how it goes.

Thanks again,
mc
 
speaking of trust...one thing I ran into in my journey is that, while I have to trust my life partner totally across the board...I was once told by a coach that I only really need to trust a dance partner as just that, someone whose skill I can trust on the floor.....however, what I soon discovered is that if you can't trust your dance partner as a person, it will eventually also prove true on the dance floor as well....buyer beware
 
speaking of trust...one thing I ran into in my journey is that, while I have to trust my life partner totally across the board...I was once told by a coach that I only really need to trust a dance partner as just that, someone whose skill I can trust on the floor.....however, what I soon discovered is that if you can't trust your dance partner as a person, it will eventually also prove true on the dance floor as well....buyer beware
It's very true. I learned a long time ago that when i'm doing business with someone over a long period of time, I care about their personal life. If i have a doctor, or lawyer, or accountant that winds up (for example) in a divorce, or on drugs - it's going to affect me as a client. So it's something i consider before i "sign a contract" or enter into a business relationship.

The unfortunate thing about dance is that it's a passing job for so many of the instructors - there are very few true Professionals that i've met in this business. And there are no established "ethics" in the business. Here in arizona, the legislature had to pass a law limiting how many dance lessons a teacher could contract for in advance - because it had turned into such a scam.

And so it goes also for dance partners. They may be friendly, but they're not necessarily your friend - their your dance partner. And that has to come first and be respected. Of course students and dance partners (and teachers) fall in love, and that can work. But beware; give it time to develop.

OK now i'm starting on my class material. It's premature; I'll shut up.
thanks!
 
For me it's different. A dance is a 3-minute relationship, and we're a team producing a dance. During that time, the differences we may have in politics, religion, social standing, wealth, educational degrees, etc do not matter. What matters is the non-verbal communication between the partners and how well we work together to produce a dance.

This can be an analog for other human relationships, not necessarily marriage. Could be a project team at work. It's possible to work well with someone without being friends away from work.
 
depends on the amount of time....3 minutes socially? yes....a few years, several times a week working toward a specific goal...requires a good deal more

True, agreed. For example an amateur competition couple would need to spend a good deal of time practicing. But in that case, all the stuff I mentioned as irrelevant would still be irrelevant. But other factors would come into play, such as work ethic, punctuality, etc.
 
Another thing to consider, OP, before you get too deep into execution: how will you market this? Is there a market for it? Why would someone choose this class over a regular dance class?

Not trying to rain on your parade. I just want to help you look at this from all sides so you end up with a product you can sell.
 
Another thing to consider, OP, before you get too deep into execution: how will you market this? Is there a market for it? Why would someone choose this class over a regular dance class?

Not trying to rain on your parade. I just want to help you look at this from all sides so you end up with a product you can sell.

Thanks, I appreciate your feedback and vetting. Yes, I'm thinking about the marketing, quite a bit.
My home studio is fairly large, we get 100 - 150 people for a saturday night dance party. The studio is close to a large Christian university, and we get a good amount of students from there. In all, it lets me mix with a large number of young people who are considering marriage, and this always seems to be a topic of interest.

The way this project is coming together, it looks like a two sided program: first a book to be written that serves as an overall text and syllabus. Second is the dance class, which serves as the dance portion, focused on the dance, but referencing the text portion. People go to a dance class to dance, not listen to a lecture, so i have to approach it this way.

In a addition, I see this as a faith-based effort, and expect to work under the auspices of my church. Still a secular presentation of the dance class, but the text references will make it clear.

I see opportunities as well for test marketing: at churches, summer camps, sports-oriented charities, marriage-encounter groups, etc.

As far as selling goes, I have a lot of experience at on-line marketing, and if the book happens, I can sell that through someone like Amazon. I especially like this marketing because it's "cash and carry"; "you like it, you buy it. If not, have a nice day" The class portion could be trickier and slower to market. Hopefully the best is word of mouth, but there are other options as well.

I'm also hoping that by tackling the hard issues in dance - such as leading, following, trusting, etc. I can provide something about technique, not just patterns, which can appeal to experienced dancers.

Plus, the ideas and feedback I'm getting from vetting it through this forum is valuable.

Thanks again
mc
 
The way this project is coming together, it looks like a two sided program: first a book to be written that serves as an overall text and syllabus.

There is at least one book out there that sounds similar to your concept. It is "Waltzing: A Manual for Dancing and Living" by Richard Powers and Nick Enge, ISBN 978-0-9827995-4-3, waltzingbook dot com.

One quote from the introduction: "Whether explicitly laid out in our essays on waltzing through life, or hidden in our tips for better waltzing, this book is overflowing with ideas that you can use to improve your life and relationships, regardless of whether you currently dance or not."

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This post may end up being more rambling than sense, but the OPs topic is one after my own heart, and because of that I will not apologize :)

Ballroom Dancing is, as with most things invented by mankind, a metaphor for life itself. I would perhaps go one step further to say that it is not like a relationship or a marriage but rather it is a relationship or a marriage. It is a relationship first and foremost, and most obviously, between the two partnered individuals. And within this partnering [of two individual persons] are embodied all the things of any other partnering: communication, respect, loyalty, caring, compassion, empathy, give and take just to name a few. The list is perhaps endless, but that will suffice since we all know of what we speak.

Communication in dance is paramount. Dance arguably is communication in itself, but the "lead and follow" aspect is of course the easiest example of this phenomenon. I prefer to use the terms initiator and responder, truthfully, rather than leader and follower... and while I understand that these can be used interchangeably, and I understand what we mean when we use these terms, I believe the later captures the actual process far more accurately. A "lead" must be clear, succinct, not aggressive but firm, and a "follow" must be pliable and allowed. But this is not only true for dancing. Communication, and effective communication at that, is something that many are unfamiliar with. We seldom listen to hear, and we seldom speak to be heard. In dancing, as in life, one must first strive to understand, and strive to be understood second.

Ballroom is, as history teaches us, a sport of elegance and beauty, and so respect is something that cannot be missing from the partnership. The idea of etiquette in asking for a dance, in declining a dance, in embodying the spirit of the dance, in the playful and often raw and sexual exchanges of energy during dancing -- all of these things must be done with the greatest respect for not only one's partner but the onlookers, as well as all those that have preceded.

I could go on in detail about each characteristic listed above but I shalln't. I think the idea is clear enough with the first two examples, and if it isn't, by all means you have but to ask and I will elaborate. The true thing I want to touch upon, however, regarding how dancing is like, or is, a relationship is perhaps the relationship that is often overlooked in all facets of life, and too often I think in dancing as well: the relationship with the self.

Dancing is perhaps one of very few activities/sports that entails the use of a mirror for evaluation. Yoga kind of does, weightlifting employs mirrors as well, and to some extent martial art does as well. But I would argue that nowhere is the mirror more needed than in dancing (and as I write that sentence I am also aware that it is also not nearly as needed as we think, but that is a different topic for another time). This is perhaps the easiest example of the pathway to the true relationship that dancing forces us to forge -- our own. We spend countless hours in front of the mirror, correcting and nitpicking. And it is through this process that we begin to either love who and what we are becoming, or we choose to focus on the negatives and become far too critical. Dancing forces the individual to push onward through uncomfortable, embarrassing, and sometimes soul crushing things in order to cleanse that which is not essential to the craft, and ultimately, to that individual.

And it is this process that we must embrace and thank if we are to truly be anything, be it in dance or in life, or whatever other endeavor we choose to pursue. Before we can have a partner we must first and foremost get ourselves in order.

As an individual dancer I must be aware of my own balance, my own posture, my own weight-shifts, my own movement(s) and interpretations prior to channeling that to someone else and asking them to interpret what I am putting out. I often would tell my male students, and female students as well, that they need to discover the rhythm and the sensation in their own muscles and bones first before even thinking about the timing assigned by someone else through [a] song. And, of course, as this process is painstakingly slow and oft revealing of our misunderstandings about ourselves or the given subject, we are forced to confront none other than the person responsible for bringing us to this endeavor: our own self.

Deep down it is this relationship that is the beginning of all others. Ballroom Dancing is of course a couple's sport, an activity meant for two. Dancing figures on one's own is ridiculous; there is no vessel that can absorb and immediately reflect the intended flow of energy if there is no partner. But just as a "leader" has to know himself before s/he can lead, so must a "follower." To be able to respond appropriately, to be able to play with the allotted time, to be able to provide flourish -- that, too, takes self-knowledge. The same trials and tribulations that someone learning to lead goes through, so does someone learning to follow. Atop that, learning to "follow" often is interchangeably used with "learning to be subservient," which could not be any less true!

And this is perhaps the next relationship [ballroom] dancing invites us to become familiar with and explore -- the relationship with power. As a "leader" cannot go mad with power, so a "follower" cannot be overtaken by it. To lead is to serve and to follow is to empower, and this delicate balance is physically embodied in each and every pattern the couple dances. The stability of each individual dancer contributes to the stability of the couple, and similarly for all other concepts related to dance: communication, interpretation, etc.

It's rather cyclical, and curious, as dance is the idea that in order for two to become one each one must be whole first.

I can go on for hours about the philosophical implications of dance and its nuances, but I am going to stop because I have graduate work to do. I humbly thank you for entertaining me, even if just this once.
 
I guess I look at the partnership differently than most. I dance pro/am and to me it is like a team at work. I have worked in companies that we have worked together for many years, been through difficult times, had laughs but it is not personal like my significant other. Yes, we know each other well at work, do a few things outside of the office, but it is a long term business relationship. That is different than a marriage. I have to trust my significant other but with business relationships I keep somewhat of an arms length. I trust the lead abilities, but motives not as much.

Maybe this relates more to pro/am than an am/am partnership
 
dance is the idea that in order for two to become one each one must be whole first.
I think this sums it up, and i thank you for an excellent response. Youve included several important points that are important to consider, and I'll remember them as i go forward in this project. Thanks for your input.
 

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