I, for one, would be delighted to do exactly that, and there are several well-attended milongas around where I get the opportunity.
It's not that I can't enjoy dancing to other types of music, e.g. Blues, but I have no need to.
Learning Leading from Patterns/Sequences
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I, for one, would be delighted to do exactly that, and there are several well-attended milongas around where I get the opportunity.
It's not that I can't enjoy dancing to other types of music, e.g. Blues, but I have no need to.
I agree some of these contemporary tango orchestra are brilliant. Oh and at the risk of sounding annoyingly pedantic, Di Sarli's last recording (sadly) was in 1958. The others that I mentioned did make music in 1960s and again, I agree with a lot of people here, not all of it is eminently danceable, but some of it is
Dave Bailey
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Ah yes, I know her. And you now
On the plus side, she came to my workshop yesterday and I had some lovely blues dances with her in the evening. So nerr.
Dave Bailey
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All patterns are examples. And (I think) should be taught as such.
OK, now I know you too, we'll say Hello next time.Ah yes, I know her. And you now
Yeah!!! Me quite jealous!!!
I've found each of those tracks, and like them very much, so thank you for the suggestions.
Tango UK is interesting too, will explore further...
And then you didn't play the Metallica version... oops.
(personally, I love the original more than any I've heard since, but then I head the original first)
quixotedlm
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(Hello fellow DF'ers! I'm coming back to DF after a long hiatus, and although a very few of you might remember me from other forums, I'm rather new to the AT world...)
So my 2c's, here it goes
No habla espanol is one of the two or three sentences I know (and understand) in Spanish. So I guess I don't know Spanish at all, but I can manage to use this sentence appropriately whenever needed :-D
This doesn't mean that teaching several common sentences to beginners of the Spanish language is a bad idea, or that such teaching detracts from true learning. Of course, students get to learn vocabulary, and an appropriate amount of grammar. All the sentences they are being presented with helps them see the words and grammar in action. Even more so, it presents them with two additional value-adds that vocabulary+grammar alone don't offer -
i. It gives them something concrete to play with, and to parrot to their fellow students in a childish attempt at speaking. It reinforces familiarity with the language, and makes the learning process less abstract, and more approachable.
ii. Instead of having to learn all grammar through theoretical discourse, it allows the student to intuit, discern, and organically learn syntax and semantics of the new language they are attempting to master. It makes room for some learning through reverse engineering, and osmosis.
Which is why good language instruction almost always seems to incorporate vocabulary, grammar and common sentences. Of course, this is all moot without practice.
And there is always a chance that a student can end up like me - knowing only a few sentences, sometimes passing for a fluent speaker, but mostly not.
So my 2c's, here it goes
No habla espanol is one of the two or three sentences I know (and understand) in Spanish. So I guess I don't know Spanish at all, but I can manage to use this sentence appropriately whenever needed :-D
This doesn't mean that teaching several common sentences to beginners of the Spanish language is a bad idea, or that such teaching detracts from true learning. Of course, students get to learn vocabulary, and an appropriate amount of grammar. All the sentences they are being presented with helps them see the words and grammar in action. Even more so, it presents them with two additional value-adds that vocabulary+grammar alone don't offer -
i. It gives them something concrete to play with, and to parrot to their fellow students in a childish attempt at speaking. It reinforces familiarity with the language, and makes the learning process less abstract, and more approachable.
ii. Instead of having to learn all grammar through theoretical discourse, it allows the student to intuit, discern, and organically learn syntax and semantics of the new language they are attempting to master. It makes room for some learning through reverse engineering, and osmosis.
Which is why good language instruction almost always seems to incorporate vocabulary, grammar and common sentences. Of course, this is all moot without practice.
And there is always a chance that a student can end up like me - knowing only a few sentences, sometimes passing for a fluent speaker, but mostly not.
Subliminal
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Welcome back!
And good argument.
And good argument.
My tango teacher has a free course of learning spanish in his school most of us follow it!(Hello fellow DF'ers! I'm coming back to DF after a long hiatus, and although a very few of you might remember me from other forums, I'm rather new to the AT world...)
So my 2c's, here it goes
No habla espanol is one of the two or three sentences I know (and understand) in Spanish. So I guess I don't know Spanish at all, but I can manage to use this sentence appropriately whenever needed :-D
This doesn't mean that teaching several common sentences to beginners of the Spanish language is a bad idea, or that such teaching detracts from true learning. Of course, students get to learn vocabulary, and an appropriate amount of grammar. All the sentences they are being presented with helps them see the words and grammar in action. Even more so, it presents them with two additional value-adds that vocabulary+grammar alone don't offer -
i. It gives them something concrete to play with, and to parrot to their fellow students in a childish attempt at speaking. It reinforces familiarity with the language, and makes the learning process less abstract, and more approachable.
ii. Instead of having to learn all grammar through theoretical discourse, it allows the student to intuit, discern, and organically learn syntax and semantics of the new language they are attempting to master. It makes room for some learning through reverse engineering, and osmosis.
Which is why good language instruction almost always seems to incorporate vocabulary, grammar and common sentences. Of course, this is all moot without practice.
And there is always a chance that a student can end up like me - knowing only a few sentences, sometimes passing for a fluent speaker, but mostly not.