"milonguero" website

Does that mean fungus isn't considered "plant"? I guess that makes sense. Come to think of it... there are probably other things that don't fall into one of those 3 categories.
Part of the the definition of a plant is that it has/makes chlorophyll. They don't, thus they technically are not plants. There are some other differences too, but I had to clear that stuff out of my brain to make room for tango.
(i.e. I forgot).

;)
 
Does that mean fungus isn't considered "plant"? I guess that makes sense. Come to think of it... there are probably other things that don't fall into one of those 3 categories.

Fungi are a kingdom of their own now, along with six other kingdoms. (Look it up).

Geez, have we ever been this far OT before? I apologize.

Back to the topic, I think:
"Though it is a fact usually unobserved in introductory biology classes, taxonomy does not represent organisms. Rather, taxonomy represents how we perceive and organize organisms."
 
While I agree with you in theory about the attitude towards tango in BA and the way different milongueros created their own uniqueness (that being part of the definition of a milonguero, after all!) the bottom line is that tango can be danced quite a few different ways. To be able to talk about those ways, it's handy to have names for at least the most distinct variations.

I think your comparison to people's names is rather pointless
in the context of dance. The problem with dance styles is no-one
seems to agree for any length of time though you would think
would need some descriptions here. However my suggestion once
that everyone who posted should clearly state their type of dance
(open hold/close inline embrace/vee embrace etc., etc) was ignored.

So we still read advice in total ignorance about things we cannot see.

And, just to be a brat.. I'm going to ask you this:

If there really is no such distinction and Susanna Miller "invented" milonguero.. what is a "genuine milonguera follower" ? :p

A milonguera, like a milonguero, is a person not a style.
 
However my suggestion once
that everyone who posted should clearly state their type of dance
(open hold/close inline embrace/vee embrace etc., etc) was ignored.

Your suggestion assumes that the people here all have only one dance type each, and that stating what their dance "is" would be limited to that one.

I think reading the threads proves that the majority of posters here each have experience, and possibly even skill, in a variety of styles.

I also think that after reading threads for awhile, one can get a sense of an individual poster's preferred style; however, even if there is a preference, that doesn't preclude the poster from having insight into or valuable contributions for any other styles.

Wanting posters to commit to one specific "type of dance" as the one they call their own for purposes of posting here sounds like a way to validate disregard for that person's posts on any other style.

If one is familiar with a style of tango, it should be possible to read a person's posts on the subject and know if they have any real understanding of it. You don't need to see them dance it to get a clue of their knowledge, and "claiming" it specifically wouldn't prove they DO have knowledge.

For the record though, I think I've stated before that my style is Tango Arthritico, and I've actually developed it even more since I first wrote about it. :cool:
 
Milongueros/as would tell you there is no such distinction and no such styles - it's all Salon.

John, you missed the topic completely. I would not question that cited statement. But it could also be true that dancers in Cafes and Confiterias in that early times would not regard themselves as Milongueros. I dont want to talk about Tango de Salon, Im interested in the historic origins of the so called milonguero style.


..Did you know that mushrooms are neither plant, nor animal...

As a biologist I do know, but that statement isnt modest in some sense that you do not reveal your definitions for plants and animals. From DNA analysis it is no secret that a lot of mushrooms stem from plants others from animals. So, apples and oranges, mushroom is no monophyletic category.

Part of the the definition of a plant is that it has/makes chlorophyll.

Counter question: does someone who is dancing enrosques and planeos a VU-stylist at once?

A milonguera, like a milonguero, is a person not a style.

Finally da core, but that was not the answer I was after!

Your suggestion assumes that the people here all have only one dance type each, and that stating what their dance "is" would be limited to that one..

Brilliant reply! As far as Im concerned: the music rules my dancing style: Pedro Laurenz: VU, D´Arienzo: club-style, Guardia vieja: Canyengue or TangoMilonga,

And now my initial question again: did the location influence the developement of the styles?
 
So what makes a person a milonguera? Can someone who dances only OE neotango to alternative music be a milonguera?

I think you get that title when you've danced a million tangos

which is 333,333 tandas

and means dancing for 44,445 hours

or 1851 days

or 5.07 years

;)
 
everyone who posted should clearly state their type of dance
(open hold/close inline embrace/vee embrace etc., etc)

Updated my sig. Created one actually.

Edit: I cannot see it. Can you? It should display "V-embrace".
 
So what makes a person a milonguera?
The capability to do social dance, with good connection, following the music, respecting other couples, and without the need to show up.
If you are able to do sacadas or ganchos, but you can dance even without them and you avoid those steps in situations when they are dangerous, you can be considered a milonguero/a.
Can someone who dances only OE neotango to alternative music be a milonguera?
It seems that in this forum we didn't reach any common agreement about what nuevo or neotango is. Anyway, if by "dances only OE neotango" you mean someone who has an obsessive-compulsive need to do ganchos, even in crowded milongas, the answer is NO.
I known some followers who explicitly told me the prefer OE, but when there is no space they have no problem to strictly dance CE and "little": I think they can well be considered milongueras.
Music is just a matter of personal preferences. Some music is more difficult than other, but this is another issue.
 
that everyone who posted should clearly state their type of dance
(open hold/close inline embrace/vee embrace etc., etc)
Easy: open, closed, parallel embrace, V-embrace, Canyengue embrace, apilado, salon, nuevo, to the most traditional of traditional music, to contemporary arrangemnts of traditional music, to electronic tango music, to anything else that catches my fancy. I dance all of it. It depends on the leader, the venue, the music, my mood, his mood, available space, clothing, and a host of other things.

And that helps anything around here...how, exactly?
 
I dance open nuevo to west-coast rap. I use ballroom acceleration to ensure I clear the widest path on the milonga floor to express myself. I could put all this in my sig if you want so you know my current stance on tango.
 
Easy: open, closed, parallel embrace, V-embrace, Canyengue embrace, apilado, salon, nuevo, to the most traditional of traditional music, to contemporary arrangemnts of traditional music, to electronic tango music, to anything else that catches my fancy. I dance all of it. It depends on the leader, the venue, the music, my mood, his mood, available space, clothing, and a host of other things.

And that helps anything around here...how, exactly?

Quite Peaches, very rarely do you help anything around here.

And if you reread my post, what I've said about followers is that
many/most don't care about the things obsessed about here, their aim is,
as yours is, to dance with any man whatever the style. That however
seems to be easier in BsAs than abroad as generally the range is more
usually restricted to that of individuals within the one broad style of salon.

However my point was in the context of writing on here and descriptions
of technique are pointless without an explanation of context.
The point, when originally made and now, is about clarity.
 

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