Pro/am Requirement to Dance Heats to do Championships

I don't mind people who are new to silver dancing silver singles and a bronze scholarship, but I think they shouldn't be allowed to also dance the silver scholarship....I think that allows full silver dancers to dance in bronze and I personally don't respect that decision....just my opinion though....but I don't get my underwear in a wringer over organizers allowing it...or spend time being judgey about people who do it....
 
Mengu said:
Say I'm a silver level dancer, dancing silver for a couple years, and want to dance up to gold to see how I do in single dances, and so I register for intermediate silver, full silver, and pre-gold. If the organizer is allowing it, is there something ethically wrong with dancing silver scholarship? Just because someone is dancing up, doesn't mean they are at the higher level. I know in reality there are truly higher level dancers dancing lower level scholarships for the cash, but I'm not talking about that. From the perspective of the organizer, I don't see anything wrong with allowing people to dance their lowest entry level in scholarship. Of course if I'm dancing silver and gold in single dances, I shouldn't be allowed to dance bronze scholarship. And if the organizer didn't spell out a rule for that, that probably needs to be remedied.
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I don't see any issue with this - everyone needs to transition. Am pretty sure the comps I've entered to date have stipulated that competitors enter multi-dance events at only one level and that level needs to be the same as the majority of their single dances. Which makes sense to me. But then what makes sense or seems fair to me and what people choose to do are two different things, and I made peace with that a long time ago :-)
 
My issue with single dances is that my injuries seize up when I stop dancing after the single dances and it is harder to get warm again and feeling good for the late afternoon, especially if there if there is a long break. I would rather warm up once, dance a lot and be done with it. This is actually a big enough issue to stop me from doing comps. But this is a personal issue and may not be relevant for younger dancers or those without injuries.
 
If I have a huge layover I hit the gym and do a light workout including elliptical. As a guy it's easier to pull off clothing wise lol
 
I agree that dancers should only be allowed to do the scholarship that aligns with where the majority of their single dances lie. If they are doing Full silver and pre-gold they should be able to do the silver and higher scholarships, but not the bronze.

I also agree about the huge gap between singles and scholarships at some competitions. It is a huge inconvenience to have to decide whether to change, then have to change back and to stay in hair and make-up all day or have it redone for the evening. The singles then are not a warm-up in anyway for the scholarships. Often, the singles are in a completely different session from the scholarship, so not only do you have to pay for the singles, but also an extra entry ticket as well.

I would love to be able to dance lots of singles, but it is just not feasible for me. Amateur couples rarely do single dances, or even have the opportunity to do so. I wonder how many of them would still compete if they also had to do X number of single dances to do their multi-dances?
 
Yeah, it's not that a lot of people don't WANT to dance a lot. It's that in pro-am, every heat adds not-insignificant costs. Forcing people to do two full rounds of singles to enter a scholarship can make a difference in deciding to do a second style (if I have to dance ten rounds of Rhythm to do the scholarship, those extra entries may mean I decide not to bother with Smooth because those two styles would mean nine extra heats to pay for if I want to do multi-dance events. So the organizer just lost a dancer in one style.)
 
Mengu said:
Say I'm a silver level dancer, dancing silver for a couple years, and want to dance up to gold to see how I do in single dances, and so I register for intermediate silver, full silver, and pre-gold. If the organizer is allowing it, is there something ethically wrong with dancing silver scholarship? Just because someone is dancing up, doesn't mean they are at the higher level. I know in reality there are truly higher level dancers dancing lower level scholarships for the cash, but I'm not talking about that. From the perspective of the organizer, I don't see anything wrong with allowing people to dance their lowest entry level in scholarship. Of course if I'm dancing silver and gold in single dances, I shouldn't be allowed to dance bronze scholarship. And if the organizer didn't spell out a rule for that, that probably needs to be remedied.
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I have no problem with this. What I was talking about was a recent comp I attended where the established silver dancers were allowed to dance down at bronze scholarship level

Have also been to another recent comp where even though I entered 150 single dances, and all were bronze level, except for 12 which were silver- I was not allowed to compete for the bronze scholarship. I'm a bronze dancer, just trying out silver- but still primarily a bronze dancer- with a large number of bronze entries- I did not compete in the silver scholarship because that would have been a joke- I was therefore unable to enter a scholarship which really sucked.
I do realize that organizers can make their own rules, so I have to decide which comps I will attend, based upon what I am willing to put up with
 
danceronice said:
Yeah, it's not that a lot of people don't WANT to dance a lot. It's that in pro-am, every heat adds not-insignificant costs. Forcing people to do two full rounds of singles to enter a scholarship can make a difference in deciding to do a second style (if I have to dance ten rounds of Rhythm to do the scholarship, those extra entries may mean I decide not to bother with Smooth because those two styles would mean nine extra heats to pay for if I want to do multi-dance events. So the organizer just lost a dancer in one style.)
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I guess my point was - do organizers prefer the dancers that enter a large number of heats, because they help pay for the cost of the comp? Because, let's be real- a competitor entering just scholarship brings in $85 to the comp- far different than the competitor who pays $5000 to dance several heats.
Just to clarify- this is NOT me saying one is better than the other, or endorsing either option.
 
dncergrl2 said:
My issue with single dances is that my injuries seize up when I stop dancing after the single dances and it is harder to get warm again and feeling good for the late afternoon, especially if there if there is a long break. I would rather warm up once, dance a lot and be done with it. This is actually a big enough issue to stop me from doing comps. But this is a personal issue and may not be relevant for younger dancers or those without injuries.
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Hear you on this. No active injuries, but my preference is still to keep going once I'm warm.. But have realized this will not be the situation as I advance.
 
Six years later I'm still pissed that I, then a true bronze level dancer, lost a closed bronze scholarship to a woman who later won the open gold scholarship. And no one felt any shame about that level of dancing down - not get, not her pro, not the organizers. Even DanceBeat had nothing but positive things to say about her wins.
 
S2k and sbrnsmith you need to pick your comps better. Read the rules and if necessary talk to the organizers in person. I have always found them quick to respond to questions
 
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