Silver standard Routine (attached)

DanceMentor

DanceMentor

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I just wrote this for a student who wants a fox trot routine. I thought I would share it in case it might help others, as well as get your comments about how you might change it. I’m pretty sure this is just a silver routine, but if you disagree, let me know. I think it would be fun if we could get more sharing of routines on the site!
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Thanks for sharing.

I don't know how you are going from a back feather to a reverse turn checked. Maybe you are missing a feather finish in between the two.

Change of direction is technically 3 slows (4 allowed in some environments), curved feather to back feather is gold, chasse to right and hesitation are open.

Your last line seems very long for a short line. It's longer than your first long line (which is kind of short, but okay for a small/squarish room).
 
Larinda McRaven said:
It is "open" since you are changing timings, adding gold foxtrot, and bronze waltz/quickstep figures...

I don't really understand the short wall, curved feathers to reverse turn? After the back feather your alignment would be DC and your right foot would be free. Wrong foot for a reverse and incorrect alignment for a reverse to check and weave. It also seems rather short even for a short wall. Perhaps you are missing a feather step to take you to new wall and be on the correct foot for a reverse figure.

And I assume by weave ending you mean a topspin.
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Mengu said:
Thanks for sharing.

I don't know how you are going from a back feather to a reverse turn checked. Maybe you are missing a feather finish in between the two.

Change of direction is technically 3 slows (4 allowed in some environments), curved feather to back feather is gold, chasse to right and hesitation are open.

Your last line seems very long for a short line. It's longer than your first long line (which is kind of short, but okay for a small/squarish room).
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It looks like I forgot to put a feather finish after the back feather. Now in terms of changed timings, are you talking about the change of direction for example? I just prefer to either do 2 slows or add an & so that the phrasing works. After the chase to right I am referring to the last four steps of the basic weave. Which figure is gold?
 
DanceMentor said:
It looks like I forgot to put a feather finish after the back feather. Now in terms of changed timings, are you talking about the change of direction for example? I just prefer to either do 2 slows or add an & so that the phrasing works. After the chase to right I am referring to the last four steps of the basic weave. Which figure is gold?
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Yeah, I too, prefer to dance on phrase, but written timing for change of direction is SSS. There are other steps that put you off phrase, you can combine such steps to get back on phrase (like Change of Direction to Natural Telemark). Your other tools for getting back on phrase are Natural Turn, hover feather, or outside swivel. Or stick with steps that keep you on phrase. Or, you just acknowledge your routine is not strictly silver, and carry on :)

Chasse to Right is not a syllabus step for foxtrot.

Hesitation change is not a syllabus step for foxtrot (though you may have meant full natural turn, but there again timing should be SQQSSS, so the way you have it written is not syllabus).

And again, curved feather to back feather is gold.
 
If it's a USA Dance competition, Progressive Chasse to the Right can be used in Bronze and up. They have it as an additional note in their WDSF syllabus.

I assume that the 'Hesitation' is 4-6 of a Natural Turn. It's slow and has a heel pull, so there is a tendency to use that name, but it's not exactly the same as a Hesitation Change in Waltz. If that's the case, then it should be fine, though you may have to use the original timing depending on the comp. Again for USA Dance, they explicitly state that the heel pull can be SSS as written, SQQ, or SS(S)S. However, I gather that other comps are more strict.

Curved feather is gold for both syllabi though, can't get around that one.
 
Requiem said:
If it's a USA Dance competition, Progressive Chasse to the Right can be used in Bronze and up. They have it as an additional note in their WDSF syllabus.
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Hmm, yeah I assumed since DM wrote this for a student it was NDCA, but WDSF syllabus has a few more steps and variations that can be used.
 
Requiem said:
If it's a USA Dance competition, Progressive Chasse to the Right can be used in Bronze and up. They have it as an additional note in their WDSF syllabus.

I assume that the 'Hesitation' is 4-6 of a Natural Turn. It's slow and has a heel pull, so there is a tendency to use that name, but it's not exactly the same as a Hesitation Change in Waltz. If that's the case, then it should be fine, though you may have to use the original timing depending on the comp. Again for USA Dance, they explicitly state that the heel pull can be SSS as written, SQQ, or SS(S)S. However, I gather that other comps are more strict.

Curved feather is gold for both syllabi though, can't get around that one.
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Hey, look, I appreciate your input. There is no imminent competition planned. More than likely this would find itself in a showcase in the next few months, and from there maybe a competition would be a good follow up.

Everything went really smooth tonight introducing this new routine. Maybe I’ll make some changes, But fortune has it that I won’t be facing and invigilator in the near future. Ha ha
 
Showcases would be fine for your routine since there are typically no judges to penalize you for dancing outside a closed silver syllabus. But for the sake of education, your student needs to know which figures in your routine are NOT standard silver and why.
 
Requiem said:
If it's a USA Dance competition, Progressive Chasse to the Right can be used in Bronze and up. They have it as an additional note in their WDSF syllabus.

I assume that the 'Hesitation' is 4-6 of a Natural Turn. It's slow and has a heel pull, so there is a tendency to use that name, but it's not exactly the same as a Hesitation Change in Waltz. If that's the case, then it should be fine, though you may have to use the original timing depending on the comp. Again for USA Dance, they explicitly state that the heel pull can be SSS as written, SQQ, or SS(S)S. However, I gather that other comps are more strict.

Curved feather is gold for both syllabi though, can't get around that one.
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Thanks for your answer. I didn’t realize about the curved feather being gold. The timing is more easily addressed. Thank you.
 
Larinda McRaven said:
Myself, I would not cheat the change of direction or natural ending. Playing with timing that way robs people of the opportunity to learn how to use other 6 or 2 count figures...

And I don't understand what you mean by adding an "and" to the end of two slows. Are you saying 4 and 1/2 beats?

So we all get it that this is not for competition, but I too would be wary of placing the label "silver" on it... since it clearly isn't.
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I didn’t say if it was open or closed. Haha
OK, I get your point. With the change of direction or the end of the natural turn, my preference would be to use two extra beats Or syncopate a step as to remain on the phrase. I hope you get my point. Maybe you have some alternative solutions that don’t involve dancing off phrase (even for a couple of measures) yet allow these figures to be used?
 
I personally wouldn't syncopate the last step of the COD. If I wanted to cheat it to stay on phrase I'd time it QSQ instead of SS&. Even SQQ is better than SS&, IMO.
 
DanceMentor said:
Maybe you have some alternative solutions that don’t involve dancing off phrase (even for a couple of measures) yet allow these figures to be used?
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I stated the tools before, but here, I'll do the legwork too (caveat, I may be breaking some precede/follow rules, as the only natural figure allowed from CoD by the book is Natural Weave)...

Change of Direction or Natural Turn (both ending DW of new LoD) to Natural Turn or Natural Telemark or Natural Turn with Hover Feather

OR

Outside Swivel with Feather Ending or Natural Turn with Hover Feather or Natural Telemark (all ending DW of new wall) to Change of direction (to face DC of new LoD)

That's 9 combinations I can think of that can be danced back to back to remain on phrase. In gold you can add Natural Zigzag from PP to the mix (combines nicely with outside swivel to remain on phrase).

Phrasing notes for USADance/WDSF: You are allowed an extra slow on change of direction and outside swivel. For heel pulls, you may dance SQQ or 4 slows (no weight change on the 3rd slow). In gold you are allowed to extend weaves by 2 quicks.

Phrasing notes for NDCA: You are allowed an extra slow on change of direction and 4-6 of natural turn. In gold you are allowed to extend weaves by 2 quicks.

Phrasing notes for WTFC: You are allowed whatever you can make work with your partner.
 
Mengu said:
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Change of Direction or Natural Turn (both ending DW of new LoD) to Natural Turn or ...
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A CoD or Nat Turn with Hesitation both end DC of new LoD, not DW. That is, the leader is facing DC, follower backing DC. (Your DW is a typo I am guessing. Or sorry if I misunderstood what you meant.)

A Natural Turn needs to commence leader facing DW. I cannot just lead a Natural Turn in any alignment. If I do, it will mess up the structure. Standard fits together like puzzle pieces. I've seen the site that uses dominos game piece infographics but always wanted to point out those should be octagonal dominos, not rectangles.
 
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