so quiet around

If you think this tango forum is losing interest, you should see TANGO-L where there are no posts for discussion and only event posts on TANGO-A. Tango-L has been around since 1996 and then was divided for events on a separate list.

I agree with Subliminal in post #14 above. So few have input on this forum and stay on topic. Rain dog in #13 confirms it. Why bother?
 
Subliminal said:
No one really wants to talk about what I want to talk about, and I'm tired of legitimate technical threads getting derailed. So it's hard to think of a reason to post.
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I'm curious, what do you want to talk about?

(No promises that I'll want to talk about it, though)

:)
 
Subliminal... if you want to start a technical (or any other thread really) and insist that it is YOUR property to govern to stay on topic, feel free to do so. Simply alert the staff that you want a thread of your own that absolutely goes where YOU want... and we will watch and help. You CAN insist on a threads direction is you state it at the very beginning, so everyone starts out knowing.
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Thanks ! It's good to know. I may do just that. Sorry I haven't been around much either, it's just been really busy lately with life, etc. I'm only getting caught up on DF reading just now. :)
 
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dchester said:
I'm curious, what do you want to talk about?

(No promises that I'll want to talk about it, though)

:)
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At this point? I think it would be fun to have a discussion thread on neat sequences/combinations of steps we've seen recently. We all know that teachers who only use sequences without teaching fundamentals are bad, bad, bad. That horse has been pulped. But recognizing that innovation can come from linking ideas together and coming up with new possibilities... and just exploring that for a bit. That would be great.

Another idea I had might be a DF "study guide" for beginners getting into the dance. Like a collection of youtube links to demonstrate concepts, a FAQ for getting started in AT, links to the threads on visiting BsAs, etc.
 
opendoor said:
Hey folks where do you actually post? It´s so quiet around. Have you found alternative sites or is it simply due to the fact that we grow older and only a frew have newly arrived?
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I think people just don't like the new forum software.

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dchester said:
I think people just don't like the new forum software.

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I doubt that: it had gone very quiet, here, well before the change, and I can't actually remember how the old version was different (but have no recollection of it having been better).
 
I am still getting used to it and over time I like it more and more.
It still have some bugs, but it seems that usability is better that old one. :)
 
The new software package takes some getting use to, but it's always that way with new software.

I like discussing ideas that are more ideological, or abstract, in nature. It can open up new ways to think about tango.

When it comes to explaining how to do a certain step, I just don't find it very feasible. When I was teaching I found that my words often were insufficient or confusing, even when I was in the room demoing something. I think learning to do a specific step requires going to a teacher. Just as one can't learn to dance by watching videos, neither can one learn a movement by reading about it.
 
AndaBien said:
The new software package takes some getting use to, but it's always that way with new software.

I like discussing ideas that are more ideological, or abstract, in nature. It can open up new ways to think about tango.

When it comes to explaining how to do a certain step, I just don't find it very feasible. When I was teaching I found that my words often were insufficient or confusing, even when I was in the room demoing something. I think learning to do a specific step requires going to a teacher. Just as one can't learn to dance by watching videos, neither can one learn a movement by reading about it.
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I would slighly disagree.

If someone knows the part of the element and is talking to person who has familiar way of communication can learn by reading about it.
 
AndaBien said:
When I was teaching I found that my words often were insufficient or confusing, even when I was in the room demoing something...
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You are no Argentine, AndaBien! In so far I would demand higher standards. What I expect is that a teacher can analyze body posture and locomotion, is able to address single muscles by their name and can explain moves with an abstract terminology. Except for analyzing all my points should work from the distance or by videos. In other words: a teacher may be a poor dancer (for me anyway) but must be an eloquent and sophisticated guy at least.
 
opendoor said:
You are no Argentine, AndaBien!...
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That's true.

opendoor said:
... What I expect is that a teacher can analyze body posture and locomotion, is able to address single muscles by their name and can explain moves with an abstract terminology...
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I find all that to be way over-complicated. Social dancing is just not that complicated. I prefer to teach by saying do [this], not by giving descriptions of [this]. (It happens that I've had some success with the way I teach). IME, over-analysis has killed many potential students.

But, I understand that you are a person who thrives on descriptions. Some people do.
 
AndaBien said:
I find all that to be way over-complicated. Social dancing is just not that complicated. I prefer to teach by saying do [this], not by giving descriptions of [this]. (It happens that I've had some success with the way I teach). IME, over-analysis has killed many potential students.
But, I understand that you are a person who thrives on descriptions. Some people do.
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Whey they are hooked on AT then you can start analyzing, until then keep them amused.
Give them enough that they can dance but not to drown them. :)
Show them roughly what to do so they have feeling of dancing. :cool:
 
Mladenac said:
When they are hooked on AT then you can start analyzing, until then keep them amused. Give them enough that they can dance but not to drown them. Show them roughly want to do so they have feeling of dancing.
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Tens of thousands of porteños have learned to dance, through-out history, without having detailed, technical descriptions of how to do it. I've had lessons with Tete and Cacho Dante, and neither ever resorted to technical descriptions.

They were thinking about creating dancers, not technicians.
 
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