Mario7
Member
Sorry Steve..but you prove my point...promiscuity leads to such drivel.
Tango is: walking and turning in an embrace (of man and woman). You know this.
Tango good! Other dance bad!
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Sorry Steve..but you prove my point...promiscuity leads to such drivel.
Tango is: walking and turning in an embrace (of man and woman). You know this.
Ampster
Active Member
Then, you just didn't get the right education. Tell us your story; were you 'educated' by Nuns? ..or what?
"Fanatic"....Irish??? .. if not,= then you weren't fanatic.:twisted:
Mario. Your narrow mindedness is starting to show.
FYI. (1) Fransican (Order of the Capuchins), (2) Irish, no. Soy un Filipino.
Oh, and I still think... "I would tend to agree more with Peaches on this.
Besides. The people who invented the tango are (predominantly) Catholic too, and they don't have issues with it either."
Point being, what has that got to do with dancing AT?
Peaches
Well-Known Member
You know, this is a dance forum. This is not a place to debate religion or religiosity, and I particularly like it that way. Perhaps one of the more open forums (Dancers Anonymous, etc.) would be more appropriate, but I doubt it. I certainly have no idea how one's faith tradition relates to AT, or how it excuses or explains the sort of intolerant views you mentioned before.Then, you just didn't get the right education. Tell us your story; were you 'educated' by Nuns? ..or what?
"Fanatic"....Irish??? .. if not,= then you weren't fanatic.:twisted:
Now, I'm no particular fan of religion, and I've got issues with Christianity and Catholicism in particular. I make no secret of my atheism, and am not ashamed of it. But that aside, even I'm offended by this statement of yours. Can you, please, keep this kind of stuff off this forum? Take it to the infamous Tango-L, if you must vent like this.
Ampster
Active Member
Yeah. I still tend to agree with Peaches. What's any of this got to do with dancing AT?
Back to regular programing... What were we talking about?
Yes, doing is the best way to learn . . . . . tango.
So here's A Media Luz as we're into lyrics
.........................................................
A Media Luz
In Half Light
3-4-8 Corrientes Street,
second floor, elevator.
There are no doormen or neighbors,
inside, cocktails and love...
A little flat furnished in maple,
A piano, a mat and a nightstand;
a telephone to answer,
a victrola that cries
old tangos of my youth,
and a cat that's made of porcelain
so it won't meow at love.
And all in half light...
For love is a wizard!
In half light the kisses,
In half light the two of us.
And all in half light,
twilight inside...
What soft velvet,
the half light of love!
12-24 Juncal Street,
call without fear;
In the afternoon, tea with pastries;
at night, tango and song.
On Sundays, a tea dance;
on Mondays, desolation.
The little house has everything:
cushions and sofas;
and like a drugstore... coke!
Carpets that make no sound
and a table set for love.
...........................................
Not so miserable is it?
Sort of compliments AndaBien's quote too.
I actually think it's easily forgotten that
original tango music was indeed instrumental.
Even La Cumparsita's lyrics were added later.
And to begin with singers only sang perhaps
on the last quarter or third of the tune. Then along
came tango to listen to and of course singers
sang virtually the whole piece. But mainly it seems
it wasn't music for dancing.
I still prefer mainly instrumental pieces, that way
it's dancing to the music, the rhythm and the melody.
Dancing to lyrics is beyond us anyway.
Even if I did understand castellano and lunfardo,
I for one have no connection to BsAs culture and history.
Soon if not already, native dancers in BsAs will have
little connection to the music lyrics either. It's history
and time moves on. It's easy to get carried away
and put far too deep meaning into things.
I shall disappoint Mario now by saying that I'm quite
happy to dance to non-tango music as long as there's
something to hook up to. No over-bearing laid over
the top non-tango rhythms please. But it is different
and the resultant dance is different, well it is for me.
tanjive
New Member
Good for you Dave. I have not been to Edinburgh but you will love the visiting maestros. For me Pablo n Noelia are one of the best of that generation. I look forward to a review.
Dave Bailey
Active Member
So spank me for having fun while dancing tango.
My goodness, what happened to this thread?
I think AT is the most challenging social dance there is to learn, for various reasons. It requires great emotional and mental investment, as well as investment of time and money. Lots of people attempt to learn AT, but quit because it's too difficult for them. Once a person has become capable, they have indeed accomplished something. This gives them a reason to feel proud, and certainly pleased. Does this mean they are better people, or tango is a better dance. Certainly not. As an old Morris dancer once told me, every tradition has it's pleasure.
And regarding fun, if having a delicious dinner with friends, accompanied by stimulating conversation and tasty wine can be fun, then so can tango.
spectator
Member
reminds me of a radio 4 afternoon play about 6 years ago. A journalist goes to Argentina to find the "real tango" expecting to go to a place like negracha on crystal meth featuring flavia and vincent as the average dancer (in style and choregraphy). He ends up being taken on a depressing journey through the life of his tango guide, taking in the history of her disappeared relatives nd possibly her torture. It ends with her berating him in a proper milonga for not understanding that the people there aren't enjoying themselves. They are there to dance away the pain of their recent history "tango music isn't picking at a scab like your rock and roll... it's sticking your fingers into the wound and ripping it open so it bleeds!"
bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
My goodness, what happened to this thread?
we're arguing.no I correct myself I am arguing about what fun means....
jiver, salsa, milonga, kizomba is fun.
blues can be mellow, moody or ocassionally fun
but tango is seriously moody and intense and a lot of other things, but fun as Marcel Marceus said, non
The "Face" in tango is reportedly descended from the African idea of "coolness", if only in part. You can be having "fun", you just don't show it and stay with the cool facial exterior.
I will jokingly tell my partners who are obviously enjoying themselve, "Oh, wait. We are doing Argentine Tango. We aren't supposed to be having fun!"
What's the point of telling people that they will eventually show their character in the way they dance, then expecting them to dance only one way?
Then there is candombe and canyengue and early tango. I love the cuts and the twisting of the hips, the "ragtime" bobbing" of music and bodies, and work it in when the music, partner, and mood is right. That's not fun? Not tango? Says who?
I will jokingly tell my partners who are obviously enjoying themselve, "Oh, wait. We are doing Argentine Tango. We aren't supposed to be having fun!"
What's the point of telling people that they will eventually show their character in the way they dance, then expecting them to dance only one way?
Then there is candombe and canyengue and early tango. I love the cuts and the twisting of the hips, the "ragtime" bobbing" of music and bodies, and work it in when the music, partner, and mood is right. That's not fun? Not tango? Says who?
And nuns? Sisters of Mercy for me. They were real disciplinarians. But they also taught me about music. And Dance.
tangonuevo
New Member
I figured you were just funnin' with us. Irrespective of the lyrics, and yes, Cambalache is one of my favorite tangos, I do have fun dancing tango. BTW, my other very favorite tango is Rememberanza, another cheery song:
Ah!... olvida mi desden,
retorna, dulce bien,
a nuestro amor,
y volvera a florecer
nuestro querer
como aquella flor.
Never really did like that girl anyway.