Tango obsession/addiction

Yeah, I think it can get to the point of being addictive.
Most partner dancing is addictive for those who want to get better. That also goes for other hobbies. A certain degree of addictiveness is required to get over the beginner hump.
But if you're using tango as an escape, is tango really the problem? Ot is it a sign that there is something missing from other areas of your life?
Using anything for an escape beyond a certain point becomes unhealthy. Escaping always is about missing in other areas of life. Tango or any other activity becomes a vehicle of escape. It becomes challenging if addiction turns chronic causing you problems.

The word addiction conjures up negative connotations due to its association with substance abuse and negative outcomes. There is a line between healthy addiction and unhealthy addiction. I don’t know if there is a synonym for healthy addiction. Implicitly addiction is associated with unhealthy trait.
 
..A certain degree of addictiveness is required to get over the beginner hump.
Exactly. The endorphins desensitize you to frustration. But they also hide from you how badly you really dance at the beginning.
Anyone who starts tango or another addictive hobby because their partner, parents or children demand it will never get an endorphin shower.
 
Late to the party . . .

Tango was consuming the most time in my life during my first four years (2013-2017), when I was initially just a beginner student, then a part-time barman and general roustabout, then an intermediate-advanced accompanier, and toward the end a práctica organizer and very junior teacher, all at the same studio. At one point I was there to accompany classes for 1-3 hours on each of 3-4 weeknights, to tend bar and/or dance at the milonga for almost 6 hours on Friday nights, attending or running the práctica for 3 hours on Sunday afternoons, taking or even giving 1-2 hours of open classes per week, and also taking 1-3 hours of expensive private lessons per week . . . I did the detailed math one time and calculated 20 hours/week.

Again, that was at one studio. I also squeezed in at least one other práctica and one other milonga per week at other studios, bringing my total tango time closer to 25-30 hours most weeks.

What made it feel "addictive" was:
  1. This time was formerly spent doing other things with other people. Now it was all tango with tango people.

  2. While much of it was free – in the sense that I was studio personnel and not paying for it – the private lessons were far from free, and I was taking them with three different teachers at one point. Moreover, time spent on tango was eating into my day job, which also cost me money. Bartending didn't make it up.

  3. The studio was 10 minutes from my home on foot; I had the keys and alarm codes needed to get in; and I had the owner's permission to be there. I couldn't pass in front of the place – which, given its location, I would do many times a week – without sneaking in for an hour or so of tango drills in front of the mirror.

  4. In 2016-2017, all of this was my way of coping with illness and death in the family, and my failing marriage (not failing due to tango, to be clear . . . my now-ex shared my obsession). It was essentially nonchemical auto-medication.
I believe that "ignores friends, other activities, and work for [thing]" "partakes of [thing] whenever possible, no matter the cost," and "uses [thing] as an escape from the realities of life" would all be familiar to if not definitive of addicts.

What changed was that the studio closed, my marriage ended, and I adequately grieved my father's death. I was no longer able to spend 20 hours + sneak drills at the studio, and I didn't feel the need to use tango as a bulwark against my psychological troubles.

From then until now – with the inevitable break during the pandemic, during which I practiced for 2-3 hours/week with my partner – tango has consisted of a total of 3-5 milongas and prácticas (mostly and sometimes entirely milongas, I confess) per week, call them 3.5 hours apiece, plus an hour-long private lesson. I did the math, once again: 15 hours/week, on average, not "Well 20 at my home studio, another 5-10 at other studios, plus a few hours of drills, so really 25, 30, or more hours/week." Less than half as much, yet distributed among a wider variety of events and locations.

So, I'd no longer qualify myself as an addict. I'd still find it near-impossible to let tango go, but that isn't because of some irrational obsession or inexplicable attraction. It's due to several facts:
  • I've invested much time, money, and energy in tango, and would like a return on my investment.

  • Now that I feel less like I have to spend all my time, money, and energy on tango, I enjoy it more. It has a seat at the table; it isn't the table.

  • Medical professionals in my life claim it's good for my physical and mental health.
Those seem rational enough, and don't sound like the justifications of a recovering addict . . . to me. My sole remaining guilty pleasure is posting here. I do that from my keyboard when I take breaks from work, and I'm not 100% sure whether the breaks clear my head and lead to better work, or distract me from my work.

Oh, and as for videos . . . Meh, not my thing. I watch videos when people send me links, but I rarely look for them. I have some videos of my own dancing, but I typically look at them once and then archive them forever.
 
A certain degree of addictiveness is required to get over the beginner hump.
I wouldn't necessarily describe that as 'addictive', although addiction could play a role for some. I'd put getting over that 'beginner hump' more as dedication, focus, objective oriented - and probably a load more from the thesaurus.

Initially I had problems with the statistics module in my maths degree. It was a new area. I 'got over the beginner hump' more by having an objective (exams) and hard, focussed, study. I certainly have no 'addiction' to statistics.
 
I believe that "ignores friends, other activities, and work for [thing]" "partakes of [thing] whenever possible, no matter the cost," and "uses [thing] as an escape from the realities of life" would all be familiar to if not definitive of addicts.
I'm not so sure. Addiction is generally something that weakens the mind or body or both. Drug addiction, alcoholism, gambling are addictive behaviors that can destroy a person. People can get obsessive about tango but it's generally a positive. Of course, if it leads you to leave your spouse, sell your furniture, quit your job, and use your home as a dance studio, and spend all your savings on instruction that points to an obsession that is self-destructive. But I've never met anyone like that.
 
I'm not so sure. Addiction is generally something that weakens the mind or body or both. Drug addiction, alcoholism, gambling are addictive behaviors that can destroy a person. People can get obsessive about tango but it's generally a positive. Of course, if it leads you to leave your spouse, sell your furniture, quit your job, and use your home as a dance studio, and spend all your savings on instruction that points to an obsession that is self-destructive. But I've never met anyone like that.

Or, well, selling everything, resigning your job, leaving your non-dancing partner and moving to Buenos Aires. :)

I always tell my tango friends (mostly followers, for quite understandable reasons, such as not getting enough dances) that it's okay to take a step back and live life if tango is constantly making them unhappy despite their regularity in going to milongas and travelling to events. Tango waits for them, and the milongas will be open as long as there are people who love tango. They will enjoy it even more after taking a break.

I'm on the brink of making such a decision (taking five, not emigrating to BA!), honestly, but time — the next month — will tell.
 
I wouldn't necessarily describe that as 'addictive', although addiction could play a role for some. I'd put getting over that 'beginner hump' more as dedication, focus, objective oriented - and probably a load more from the thesaurus.

Initially I had problems with the statistics module in my maths degree. It was a new area. I 'got over the beginner hump' more by having an objective (exams) and hard, focussed, study. I certainly have no 'addiction' to statistics.
I agree and thought over it before saying so. Was it dedication and focus or addiction. To me former manifests in a different way. There is a more deliberate approach. Addiction manifests as enjoying the journey itself. Some dancers are both dedicated and addicted. Some are addicted. Most are neither and either drop out or linger on in mediocrity.
 
So, practically a full-time job.
Pretty much. On weeks when I put in about 12 hours as an accompanier, 6 hours as a barman, and 3 hours running a práctica, and showed up outside those hours to clean the studio or do other odd jobs, it was definitely a part-time job.
 
I'm not so sure. Addiction is generally something that weakens the mind or body or both. Drug addiction, alcoholism, gambling are addictive behaviors that can destroy a person. People can get obsessive about tango but it's generally a positive. Of course, if it leads you to leave your spouse, sell your furniture, quit your job, and use your home as a dance studio, and spend all your savings on instruction that points to an obsession that is self-destructive. But I've never met anyone like that.
I think I agree, but at the same time, I was the only one in my cohort who went even as far as I did, which was nowhere near your description, I'll grant.
 
..sell your furniture, quit your job.. use your home as a dance studio.. I've never met anyone like that.
I did the same, and you told me the same. Who now actually was the first you met?
And have you ever wondered if you're missing some addictiveness, Arbee? Please excuse my next sentence, I don't mean you in person, and I only know you from your comments. However, people in my community who make similar comments usually are an annoying obstacle on the dance floor! Behind this usually a certain attitude is hidden: "because I can't do it, it shouldn't be at all in general". Excuse me, I don't mean you, I'm just analyzing and unmasking common traits in my/your/our tango world.
 
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Pretty much. On weeks when I put in about 12 hours as an accompanier, 6 hours as a barman, and 3 hours running a práctica, and showed up outside those hours to clean the studio or do other odd jobs, it was definitely a part-time job.
Yeah, I was never that deep into it. First six months to a year I was still a bit lost. Probably spent four or so hours a week, maybe six. Can't recall. Time investment increased with the years.
 
It's a safer and healthier addiction than many others, because it gets us out of the house doing something physical and social, but it can also act as an escape.
Finally, a hobby is also part of real life, and I think tango is even very real, maybe compared to the consumption of media. I don't see from what it could serve as an escape.

But if you're using tango as an escape, is tango really the problem? Ot is it a sign that there is something missing from other areas of your life?
If I miss something, it is the question of whether tango can provide a solution. I think this is working for me at the moment. It is a type of community that offers a number of advantages, especially when traveling.

I think like any other activity, it depends on how you use it, what you're getting from it, whether you're able to balance it in a healthy way.
For many people, I am not sure whether they will still experience such embraces after their active dancing time. Maybe this also explains why many people fight such hard for their place in tango?
 

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