USA Dance resignations

You only dance standard and Latin

Gotta have my smooth. Just gotta.

Currently compete in Latin so would consider that.

Pm me the list of comps you do please
I have no doubt standard has huge numbers tho
 
It's also a lot easier for championship level dancers. If you're dancing in syllabus, USA Dance is pretty much the only game in town. Or the comps on the collegiate circuit that allow non-students to compete, I suppose.

(And yes, I know - most NDCA comps *do* have entries available for syllabus level dancers. Which is just fine if you're ok with uncontested single-dance events. Or just going ahead and entering the lower level open multidance events since, at least in many parts of the country, you can safely assume that those are going to be uncontested as well.)
 
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Provo will, if we just ask and tell them we are coming! Last year they had a small field in Sr 2 and no senior 3. This year, semis in S2 and we had 5 couples in S3 standard. All that is needed is support and commitment. Being much cheaper, with a much better venue, and run professionally, I see no comparison...
 
Except that is only one event

Personally at least USA dance offers a dozen or so comps that all offer everything in all ages up to senior 3

I'm looking to dance smooth and Latin am am at 4 or 5 events a year. Was hoping Ndca am am participation here in California would give us that. It hasn't. Way too many uncontested

It might be a good time if USA dance is as bad off as BD states for the Ndca to court the ams

I would end up doing more pro am comps as a side effect. That can't be bad for anyone !!
 
USA Dance has only one Nationals, too. Your point lol?

There are almost 100 NDCA sanctioned events that have am/am, btw. Many more events in your area too compared to USA Dance, especially since USA Dance decided that the West Coast was not a place they wanted to hold events (they voted not to do West Coast Nationals ever again apparently and folded all the NQEs except of course for the one that is run by the deposed president (the one who lost in a landslide)).

We certainly can bring to the NDCA this need, and see if they can offer events. However, uncontested events simply mean that your fellow dancers are not there. Here are over 1,000 supporters of Senior events, come join us and help us to make am/am great again (sorry, bad joke lol)...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/seniorcompetitors/
 
I'm *pretty* sure he's looking for more competitions with contested senior events, not more Nationals. ;)

It's sort of an interesting problem, from my pov since events being uncontested is something of a self-sustaining problem. I think that organization through places like the facebook group are the right way to go and to let people know that there actually *will* be contested events at specific competitions.
 
Exactly! One way we thought of doing this was to set up a competition calendar, emphasizing comps that were welcoming to Seniors, and actually organizing folks to go en masse. We have many members who are interested in exactly what you propose.
 
I think the bigger idea in the USA is to let everyone know that a comp is there, not what org runs it, or who is fighting who. Dancers do not go to comps based on 'allegiance' but where the competitors are. Yes, it's true that NDCA comps are, these days, the 'go tos' for serious ams, and while USA Dance would like you to think that they are the only organizers of am comps, we all know that Blackpool Festival, etc all exist (many way before USA Dance) and can be much more attractive.

The WDC AL is a large organization that does all Am events throughout the world, as well... and they don't send you requests for donations lol (snark).
 
Correct Jude

And totally agree it's a cart and horse situation


The USA dance smoothies would always email each other to see what events we were going to and try to assure numbers
 
Really not interested in competing overseas. Why wreck a good vacation by making my wife pack a ball gown

Wendy Johnson wants us to do kiwi Classic in New Zealand. Show off amateur smooth. I'd do it but the mrs would rather pack a few extra bathing suits lol

And the Ndca may get the serious senior standard ams but no others that's a fact
 
Exactly! One way we thought of doing this was to set up a competition calendar, emphasizing comps that were welcoming to Seniors, and actually organizing folks to go en masse. We have many members who are interested in exactly what you propose.

Keep in mind there are a lot of different kinds of am/am seniors - you guys are champ/open, and from what I have seen the group focuses on that, but there are senior 1-4, bronze through gold, all four styles as well. It can be really hard to find a few other couples in your particular event (Senior X, Syllabus level bronze and silver, or silver and gold, or just one of the three, and in your style). Regional qualifiers and USA dance nationals have been the only places I have really ever seen contested senior am/am in the syllabus level.

With 100+ NDCA comps out there, sure any senior am/am can enter them, but odds are they will only see a few other am/am couples total all weekend in senior syllabus in any style, and none in their level, style, and age group - thus being uncontested. On top of that the NDCA entry structure means you have to pick between pre-bronze, bronze 1, bronze 2, full bronze, open bronze, etc (or similar variations). Nice if you want to dance extra times, but hard to guess where any other ams might happen to register, even if they are somewhat close to your age group.

Syllabus am/am at NDCA is also much more expensive for an am/am syllabus senior than USA dance, since you pay per dance, not per event (CC/R/S or whatever). You also can't do private videotaping. And then NDCA gives you barely a minute of music per dance, and the pro/am couples are mostly confused why you are out there in "their" heat. Unless they make some changes it isn't a very attractive option for syllabus senior am/ams.
 
no, they have 3 dance events for instance in syllabus at these events. Same as USA Dance. Where did you think USA Dance got their models for competitions?
 

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