What are DJs doing wrong

Then get them up dancing with something at least acceptable+ when the clock starts ticking. There's plenty of 'good' stuff. Might even attract people to be there early if the music isn't mediocre, rather than late because he never plays anything decent early.

Some DJs develop a reputation. I was dubious when I found who was the DJ at a recent milonga, then I found that the organiser had insisted he did a more acceptable set. It worked!

I never play any songs I consider mediocre (in that I'd rather dance to them than sit them out) — though I make an exception for Tanturi/Campos, because it's my tradition to play Muchachos, comienza la ronda at the start of every milonga. ;)
 
I never play any songs I consider mediocre (in that I'd rather dance to them than sit them out) — though I make an exception for Tanturi/Campos, because it's my tradition to play Muchachos, comienza la ronda at the start of every milonga. ;)

A couple of weeks ago I thanked a DJ for playing good music because it was one of these milongas where I was going to have to dance every tanda regardless of whether the music was good or bad.
 
..milongas where I was going to have to dance every tanda regardless of..
That's a welcome coincidence. But why do you differentiate between milongas where you must have every tanda and those where you don't? Is it the day of the week, the time of day, or the perfume of the dancers? (Just curious)
 
That's a welcome coincidence. But why do you differentiate between milongas where you must have every tanda and those where you don't? Is it the day of the week, the time of day, or the perfume of the dancers? (Just curious)

It just depends on who is there, what other reason would there be
 
That's a welcome coincidence. But why do you differentiate between milongas where you must have every tanda and those where you don't? Is it the day of the week, the time of day, or the perfume of the dancers? (Just curious)
I have those too, even as a follower, believe it or not The number of people present who expect a dance and I don’t want to snub anyone because it’ll backfire for the next time I need more guys in the room. It’s much worse in my scene for a follower to ‘snub’ (even inadvertently) a leader. Us followers perfectly well understand the guys don’t have enough tandas to go around for all the followers waiting around. So if a guy we ‘expect’ a dance from doesn’t get to, it’s a question of math.
 
..a question of math.
Your answer makes me realize how far I've strayed away from tango. I actually only go to milongas that people can remember my face, not to dance. Dancing happens more by chance, or coincidence, when a lightweight dancer asks me to dance while also music is playing that I like. everything else no longer is an option.
 
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Be predictable, be consistent
I'd almost argue this is the single most important characteristic of a DJ.
I completely agree - but that is the conscious opposite of intuitive and sometimes also situation-related selection.

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DJs who think they have to play funereal dirges for the first hour drive me nuts! There is no shortage of great music to fill an entire milonga. Play great music from the first song!
It may depend on what you consider "great music." And you have to consider that the majority of dancers won't comment on the music; they'll essentially dance "despite" the music.
I don't play anything that I personally consider "not great." Nevertheless, I play different songs at the beginning of a milonga than towards the end.
 
As always, it's about 'reading the floor'.
DJing at a regular, well-known milonga, at least, means reading similar stories over and over again. Sometimes it's full, sometimes it's emptier, sometimes it's warmer, sometimes it's colder. And since the selection is also meant to be "predictable and consistent," you can focus on the playback quality and even dance yourself.

At unfamiliar events, perhaps even with several milongas in a row, things might be quite different.

It's important for the DJ to distinguish between these two situations and not try to apply well-intentioned advice for one situation to others.
 
DJing at a regular, well-known milonga, at least, means reading similar stories over and over again. Sometimes it's full, sometimes it's emptier, sometimes it's warmer, sometimes it's colder. And since the selection is also meant to be "predictable and consistent," you can focus on the playback quality and even dance yourself.

At unfamiliar events, perhaps even with several milongas in a row, things might be quite different.

It's important for the DJ to distinguish between these two situations and not try to apply well-intentioned advice for one situation to others.
If the DJ isn't 'responding', i.e. reading the floor, then may as well just provide a curated playlist, since they're adding so little. Should the DJ be a 'performance' (attraction?) themselves (e.g. some USP like crates of vinyls)?

I don't know if 'predictable and consistent' is always a desirable quality given what might have been provided previously. Certainly keep, or enhance, a previous good reputation at a 'well-known' milonga and add some enhancement to the less well-known.
 
And you have to consider that the majority of dancers won't comment on the music; they'll essentially dance "despite" the music.
If this is indeed the case, then the DJ's job becomes massively easier, as they only have to please the minority!

Of course the minority present may have completely incompatible ideas about what they want, but I think that's why many BsAs organisers vet their DJ sets to ensure it's mostly the most popular music – they won't please everyone, but they will please the majority [who care].
 
If the DJ isn't 'responding', i.e. reading the floor, then may as well just provide a curated playlist, since they're adding so little. Should the DJ be a 'performance' (attraction?) themselves (e.g. some USP like crates of vinyls)?
An average DJ's music selection could be handled in a similar way these days by an algorithm or an AI. Additional information could also be provided, such as whether the dancers are tired or alert. However, DJs don't consistently assess such situations, and there's no consensus on how to respond musically in such situations.
In rare cases, you'll find DJs who put together their tandas entirely on the fly. But average DJs are already overwhelmed by the task of incorporating reliable pause of a few seconds between their tracks.

But a DJ takes on a certain range of responsibilities that the host can't or doesn't want to fill himself. Therefore, in my opinion, he definitely has to be 'responding,' meaning he greets guests, engages in conversation with them, and, if possible, he should even dance himself at least at a regular milonga. And so he is also responsible for counteracting routine boredom, for example by playing a daring tanda, for whose success or failure he is then visible and responsible.
 
Your answer makes me realize how far I've strayed away from tango. I actually only go to milongas that people can remember my face, not to dance. Dancing happens more by chance, or coincidence, when a lightweight dancer asks me to dance while also music is playing that I like. everything else no longer is an option.
What is wrong with you dude? Sounds like you lost stamina completelly.
 
If this is indeed the case, then the DJ's job becomes massively easier, as they only have to please the minority!
A maximum of 10% of the dancers can comment on the music in a qualified manner, i.e., what they would specifically like better. So I focus on their feedback (if I can get it). For the others, it has to be just right.

Of course the minority present may have completely incompatible ideas about what they want, but I think that's why many BsAs organisers vet their DJ sets to ensure it's mostly the most popular music – they won't please everyone, but they will please the majority [who care].
Due to the poverty gap there, organizer and DJ are main occupations. This creates a completely different pressure to be customer-oriented. If the elderly regulars are neither able to cope with Biagi's syncopations (either due to their hearing or joints), then he shouldn't be played. Here in Northern Europe, where the expense allowance practically doesn't cover the actual costs plus the working time, we have a different starting point.
 

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