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Peaches said:
I curse the day FIL talked up the wonders of Open Office, as well as the day DH installed it on Lappy. What a freakin' p.i.t.a. program which gets in the way and doesn't ever do what I need it to do. What a waste. Just the same as MS Office my foot.
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Yeah I had the same experience. Yes, it's open source, yay, support open development, ra ra ra. Whatever. But when work mandates the use of MS Office and you are used to the commands/menus, Open Office is just a pain. I also had trouble converting documents back and forth, so I gave up on it.
 
My website has been hacked. Almost every page on it has a virus. Anyone with good antivirus software will basically be able to see NOTHING on my site. This is how I make my living, folks. I can't be out of business while my ISP is dragging its feet about removing the virus -- there are a *lot* of pages on my website and they don't seem to want to do the work. I am uploading the last state of the saved pages wherever I can, and thanking god the virus is not on my computer. But this is tedious. Tedious. And I'm making Easter dinner for 12 tonight, so doing the ISP's job for them is annoying. Hey, folks, YOUR SERVERS have the virus, not my computer. YOU FIX IT. NOW.
 
Subliminal said:
Yeah I had the same experience. Yes, it's open source, yay, support open development, ra ra ra. Whatever. But when work mandates the use of MS Office and you are used to the commands/menus, Open Office is just a pain. I also had trouble converting documents back and forth, so I gave up on it.
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Yeah. It won't recognize key features of MS Office (track changes, anyone?), and MS Office won't recognize anything worked on in Open Office, even if I save it in the MS format. Ergo, y'all...totally effing useless.
 
Subliminal said:
Yeah I had the same experience. Yes, it's open source, yay, support open development, ra ra ra. Whatever. But when work mandates the use of MS Office and you are used to the commands/menus, Open Office is just a pain. I also had trouble converting documents back and forth, so I gave up on it.
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you mean people can actually get used to MS Office arrangement? I was very used to it and then they changed it all in um... office 2007 was it? I managed to avoid upgrading for awhile, and am now paying the price for avoiding it because I have to use it at work. I hate it! The layout of menus takes up a tremendous amount of the vertical space on your monitor compared to the old drop down menus, and nothing is where I would think to look for it... Insert Page Break? Under Insert? Of course not! They didn't just change the way it looks, they changed how many commands are categorized.

Frankly, I think the people who force us to continuously relearn stuff we already knew (which takes valuable time away from expanding our knowledge base or being productive) should all be taken out back and kicked around. I would think employers, for whom this time spent is an actual out of pocket cost, would be screaming bloody murder about this sort of thing by now.

Fie on Microsoft and all their freakin upgrades! A pox on their house!
 
Zoopsia59 said:
you mean people can actually get used to MS Office arrangement? I was very used to it and then they changed it all in um... office 2007 was it? I managed to avoid upgrading for awhile, and am now paying the price for avoiding it because I have to use it at work. I hate it! The layout of menus takes up a tremendous amount of the vertical space on your monitor compared to the old drop down menus, and nothing is where I would think to look for it... Insert Page Break? Under Insert? Of course not! They didn't just change the way it looks, they changed how many commands are categorized.

Frankly, I think the people who force us to continuously relearn stuff we already knew (which takes valuable time away from expanding our knowledge base or being productive) should all be taken out back and kicked around. I would think employers, for whom this time spent is an actual out of pocket cost, would be screaming bloody murder about this sort of thing by now.

Fie on Microsoft and all their freakin upgrades! A pox on their house!
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I have so far resisted changing over to the "new" Office--they are going to have to pry my Office 2003 out of my cold dead hands if I have anything to say about that. Someone actually gave me Office 2007 to try (corp license, not a "cracked" version) once, I couldn't use it for a DAY before it was uninstalled and the Office 2003 Corp DVD found again to restore the status quo ante.

I've been using Word since Word 5.0 (DOS version) and used to spend an hour each time they upgraded the s/w returning the "features" back to their last-version defaults, although I had pretty much given up doing that around Office 2000. I am no techno-luddite, but someone needs to tell MS that "all change is not progress" but I'll be accompanying my flying pig to the wedding of the gay republican moslem President of America when that happens... :)

For those who are annoyed with Open Office, since Oracle / Sun is not really playing ball, a new distro called Libre Office has been spun off the old open office project; haven't tried it yet, but it's supposed fix a lot of OO issues that were caused by Sun's reluctance to try new things. I sure hope they haven't gone the MS Office 2007 look-and-feel way, though.
 
Ya know, I hated MSO 2007 when we first had it installed here at work. And there are still some features that I dislike (like the fact that I can't figure out why sometimes a document will open with 2007 and sometimes it will open with 2003). But after a while...I have actually gotten to like it a lot more. The only downside, as mentioned, is the fact that the stupid icons at the top of the screen take up a lot of work.
 
Peaches said:
The only downside, as mentioned, is the fact that the stupid icons at the top of the screen take up a lot of work.
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And the really weird thing about that is that displays got wider not taller, so making menus that take up more vertical space makes NO sense. At least in AutoCad, Photshop, and some other programs you can park the toolbars wherever you want, or even pull them over to a 2nd display (if you have one, which I don't). MS really needs to get with the program (so to speak)
 
Zoopsia59 said:
And the really weird thing about that is that displays got wider not taller, so making menus that take up more vertical space makes NO sense. At least in AutoCad, Photshop, and some other programs you can park the toolbars wherever you want, or even pull them over to a 2nd display (if you have one, which I don't). MS really needs to get with the program (so to speak)
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Yeah. The Ribbon was an interesting concept, but I think they really screwed up with their implementation for MS Office. Interestingly enough, I have used another (non-MS) scientific application that uses the Ribbon interface, and they did it MUCH better. Each ribbon tab is grouped by actual real-world tasks that you'd need to perform in an order, and there is minimal flipping between them. It's funny how Microsoft didn't take advantage of the interface THEY invented. :?
 
Seriously, people. I do NOT have the time to be babysitting you as you figure out how to use my data. I have my own freakin' work that REALLY needs to get done right about now. Gah!
 
Zoopsia59 said:
you mean people can actually get used to MS Office arrangement? I was very used to it and then they changed it all in um... office 2007 was it? I managed to avoid upgrading for awhile, and am now paying the price for avoiding it because I have to use it at work. I hate it! The layout of menus takes up a tremendous amount of the vertical space on your monitor compared to the old drop down menus, and nothing is where I would think to look for it... Insert Page Break? Under Insert? Of course not! They didn't just change the way it looks, they changed how many commands are categorized.

Frankly, I think the people who force us to continuously relearn stuff we already knew (which takes valuable time away from expanding our knowledge base or being productive) should all be taken out back and kicked around. I would think employers, for whom this time spent is an actual out of pocket cost, would be screaming bloody murder about this sort of thing by now.

Fie on Microsoft and all their freakin upgrades! A pox on their house!
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I agree..the secretaries in the office know less about the new whassermajig than i do..I'm glad I've still got my antique PC at home with Quark version 200 BC.
 
Why did I bother going to sleep last night? My body rather apparently didn't want to be there. Took forever* to fall asleep, kept waking up all night long like I'd had a bunch of caffeine right before bed, bored lying there waiting for it to be late enough to get up. When I did drift off, being sort of woken up every.freakin.time I moved--my back has been killing me again, so finding a position which is comfortable for that is about impossible, and every time I rolled onto my stomach I was met with pain. Eeesh.

*"Forever" here being defined as, oh, probably 5 minutes. Which, for me, is an eternity.
 
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