Whining Thread #4

I feel you.

My solution was to have my gowns made by a company that did them inexpensively. Were they Royal Family quality? Hardly. But the proportions were right, because I had a lot of email exchange with the maker about my issues (long torso/short legs/short person/short waisted/short arms etc)

An experienced ballroom gown maker, even overseas in a country you would never imagine would do a decent job, will do a decent job making a gown for you. That's the business. Ask a lot of questions and offer a lot of information. They don't want you to look bad.

PM if you want a recommendation.
Sent you a message, thanks!
Are you doing smooth, standard, or both?

I had to Google that, not knowing what the difference was. I'm in Canada, so it appears I do Standard style only. Maybe there are some Canadians who do Smooth at the biggest competitions, but not at my school and not at the small competitions I've been in (or been to as a spectator).
You might check and see who the good dressmakers are locally for figure skaters. They make some pretty elaborate costumes for little girls through adult women. None of the figure skating costumes would be traditional ballgowns, but the sewing skills on the bodice/bodysuit would be the same (or very similar) and they may be able to figure out how to give you a ballgown skirt instead of a figure skating skirt.

Good idea, since I've been figure skating since I was 5 and still do it at what you'd call an "advanced recreational" level. My partner and I were both senior international pairs competitors and still do exhibitions at local clubs' shows, but don't compete. So skating dresses and their stores or costume makers I know. I think it would work best to get someone to alter an ice dance dress, since they have floaty skirts to about knee length. The design and ornamentation is meant to flow down the body to a longer length when seen from a distance. The same decorative pattern of sequins or whatever on a singles skater's dress is a more compact design for a smaller area of fabric. It might even be possible to take an ice dance dress and add a second longer skirt layer under the first, or something along those lines, to take the dress down to ankle length.

The one hitch would be that, like ballroom dancers, ice dancers tend to be taller with long limbs, so there wouldn't be as big a choice of dresses as there is for singles and pairs skaters. (Female pairs skaters are referred to as "pairs girls" no matter how old they are. The famous coach Moskvina is in her 80s, a former world pairs champion still out on the ice demonstrating for her students and getting her male students to lift her, and she's still called a pairs girl.) At almost 5'2", I'm on the tall side for pairs girls, many of whom are under 5', some as tiny as 4'7" or 4'8". So the dresses they buy or have made would be too small for me, if I wanted to buy a used one and have it altered. I guess ice dance is the place to look.
This wouldn't be the budget option as it would be custom. I don't know how the pricing compares to custom gowns from the ballroom dressmakers (the types that vend at comps, not the overseas mail order versions which are certainly also an option).

Prices for skating competition dresses are in the thousands, like ballroom dresses. Where I live, anyway. Prices for everything are higher in Canada and particularly in some cities like Toronto or Vancouver (I live in a suburb of Vancouver).
One other idea - have you watched the younger age groups competing at the open level? Some of the younger ballroomers (teens, for instance) would probably be your height (of course there are other adult women your height too, I'm not much taller myself). If you see a dancer that looks to be a similar build as you are, and you like their gown, you might consider approaching them or their parents and ask if they have any used dresses for sale, and/or ask who makes their dresses/where they get them. I had a different problem than you (short and not skinny) and found a few adult dancers I admired with a similar build. One of my favorite used dresses was bought used from one of those dancers, years back.
Another good idea, thank you! My club has a used skate and dress sale coming up. I'll prowl in the kids' section and see if anything there might work, and talk to the mothers selling. And the same if my ballroom school has a similar sale.
You could also check with the dress rental companies and ask what they have for someone your height. Maybe they have something, and some of those dresses are available for rental or purchase if you happen to find one you like enough to buy.
The only clothing rental stores I know of rent theatrical costumes or vintage clothes that could be used on stage, so I'll phone around and see if any might have something that would fit. Maybe I could start a trend for vintage evening gowns for ballroom comps :)
Just some ideas - it can feel overwhelming looking for ballroom dresses when you aren't the height and size they commonly market to.
You should see my shoes. I take a size 3 or 4, which is small even for someone my height, so I buy my footwear in kids' departments. My sneakers tend to have cartoon characters on them. My ballroom shoes have the lower heels required for the younger girls.

I really appreciate this wealth of suggestions! Maybe I can look like I belong in the adult classes at a competition, not like a little kid who sneaked onto the floor to dance with her daddy, which is what my partner's wife says we sometimes look like :D.
 
For rental, I meant ballroom dress rental vendors. There are several of those in the USA, but I don't know if they ship to Canada. Not sure if there are any Canadian ballroom dress rental vendors. For an example in the USA, look at Encore Ballroom Couture. There's another one I've forgotten the name of, I'll post it later if I remember or maybe others can add their favorites.
 
I'm working from home today.....so, I can't ask my assistant to help me find my glasses.
They've gotta be SOMEWHERE.
 
Life is lif-ing too much and I need more dance in my life to cope.

But, this (hopefully brief) season won't allow me as much dance time as I want to keep my sanity. So forgive any un-Pryn like postings. :D

I need a lottery ticket win so I can make work optional and dance until I drop.
 
Life is lif-ing too much and I need more dance in my life to cope.

But, this (hopefully brief) season won't allow me as much dance time as I want to keep my sanity. So forgive any un-Pryn like postings. :D

I need a lottery ticket win so I can make work optional and dance until I drop.
I'd offer you half of my lottery win, if I ever had enough spare cash to buy a ticket in the first place. My budget has three categories, Ballroom$$$, Figure skating$$$, and Miscellaneous (all the other boring stuff that has to get paid).
 
Alright... so not only is Pryn a terrible caregiver to plants, but she can't bake to save her life...

Whine: My first attempt at baking a box cake and I broke the cake. It sank in the middle... Concave shaping is for smooth figures, not box cakes... le sigh...

<pouting> And I followed the directions... mostly... :D

It'll still be tasty. It just doesn’t look that way.
 
Alright... so not only is Pryn a terrible caregiver to plants, but she can't bake to save her life...

Whine: My first attempt at baking a box cake and I broke the cake. It sank in the middle... Concave shaping is for smooth figures, not box cakes... le sigh...

<pouting> And I followed the directions... mostly... :D

It'll still be tasty. It just doesn’t look that way.
If you are going to frost it ... put the concave side down, and frost the nice rectangular shape on what was the bottom while it was baking. I think that is a common way to frost a sheet cake for exactly that reason. Or, if you're leaving it in the pan, just pile the frosting higher in the middle, lol.
 
Whelp! I was wrong... the cake isn't cooked at all in the middle...it's not structurally sound enough to flip over. :D

According to the all-knowing Google and Reddit sphere - using a glass pan to bake a cake is a rookie mistake and results in a sunken middle, not safe to eat cake, if one does not allow extra time beyond the standard box instructions. 4/5 recommend just starting over and buying a cake pan.

My pride is wounded...very wounded right now. It's a good thing I have a good sense of humor to fall back on...
 
@Pryn, not for nothin', but you have a friend who bakes and is FULL of unsolicited advice.

In your shoes, I'd take the fully baked edges, crumble them, divvy them out into small cups*, add frosting to the cups and serve Cake Shots. (have done this and people love it)

*beer pong cups work well here
I posted here figuring that if my friend was awake at such a late hour, she'd post some helpful, unsolicited advice, or see it in the morning. :D
 
I would take @j_alexandra 's baking advice first and foremost, but speaking as someone who has made a lot of box mix cakes - check the middle of the cake with a toothpick or knife before declaring it finished. My oven seems to run a little hot so I usually start checking things 5-10 minutes before the recommended bake time, and at increments (5ish-ish minutes or so depending on how done it seems each time) thereafter as needed.
 

Dance Ads

Advertise on Dance Forums Reach dancers, teachers, studios, event organizers, and dance-friendly brands. View ad options
Back
Top