Competition Hair

Ponytail question: for those of you who have done the low ponytail - how on earth do you make it secure? I did a quick search and did not find any ballroom ponytail tutorials - does anyone have any good links?
 
Ponytail question: for those of you who have done the low ponytail - how on earth do you make it secure? I did a quick search and did not find any ballroom ponytail tutorials - does anyone have any good links?

I've seen a video where they take one of the thinner hair elastics, push a bobby pin through each side, and holding the hair in a bunch, poke one of the bobby pins below your fist, wind the elastic around and around, then poke the other bobby pin through, making sure it crosses and locks over the first one. I had quite thick hair, and I found it easier to loop TWO of the thin elastics together to give enough room to move. I actually made a little movie clip of the process but couldn't figure out how to upload it, so have just added a couple pics instead. I did this on my nieces, who both have really thick hair, and it didn't budge. You can then take a section of hair from the tail, and wind it around and pin it to cover the elastics. Sorry I had to use a haur extension I made as an example, since my hair hasn't grown back yet!!
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Ok, ladies - you with frizzy hair, this crimped style is THE BOMB. It was sooooo quick and easy to do my hair!!! This can never go out of style ever. because it is how i am wearing my hair all the time. looked great on the video and on the floor, too.


TUTORIAL! TUTORIAL!

Glad it worked for you - tell us what you did!
 
Ponytail question: for those of you who have done the low ponytail - how on earth do you make it secure? I did a quick search and did not find any ballroom ponytail tutorials - does anyone have any good links?
I've occasionally succeeded at this by making a half-ponytail first with the top half of my hair, secured well with either one thick elastic or two thin ones, and then pulling the rest of my hair up to the half-ponytail and securing the whole thing with another thick elastic or two thin ones. The upper half helps support the lower half, and it's not hard to hide the dividing line between the two.
I often do updo like and secure it with bobby pins, so you can do the same with ponytail also
 
Does anyone have any ideas for how to do half-up half-down hair the way Daria Chesnokova wears it? It looks like it's sectioned off in the front and then tied into little ponytails at the crown of her head. Is it that simple or am I missing something?
 
Any idea for a tutorial to learn how to do this kind of "sectionned" hairdo?
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Question on hairnets. Let's say you have your hair in a ponytail and you're going to do an elaborate, twisty bun/style. At competitions, it looks like ladies wrapped their hair in a net while it's a ponytail and then style it in place, rather than doing the hairstyle and then finishing with a net. Is this how it is done? If so, are there special hairnets people use for doing this? Unless it's a simple round bun, I have no understanding of how ladies use hairnets to do their hair.
 
Usually what is very common is that you make the pony tail, then back comb it a bunch so it has more volume and is easier to shape, but then..... (*here's the magic*) brush the outside again so it looks smooth on the outside. Then wrap it in the hairnet. Then shape on the head & pin down.

Then more hairspray LOL.


I have not yet mastered the ridges *sniff* but I have really thin hair so this adds to my issues.
 
Question on hairnets. Let's say you have your hair in a ponytail and you're going to do an elaborate, twisty bun/style. At competitions, it looks like ladies wrapped their hair in a net while it's a ponytail and then style it in place, rather than doing the hairstyle and then finishing with a net. Is this how it is done? If so, are there special hairnets people use for doing this? Unless it's a simple round bun, I have no understanding of how ladies use hairnets to do their hair.
That is indeed how you do it. It's just a normal thin hairnet, the kind you'd find at a drugstore. You can also do multiple ponytails for more intricate swirl designs, if you have enough hair.

I did a quick search on Youtube and here's an example, starting around 2:25:
 
I’ve searched through a lot of DF threads on this, but still have questions related to a crystal hair ornament I would like to incorporate into my hairstyle on Smooth day at a comp in 2 weeks. At the end of this post is a pic of the style I want, and the hair ornament I’m thinking about using.

Comp hairstyles require a ton of hairspray. Won’t that ruin the hair ornament? “No,” you reply, “because you put on the ornament LAST, after the hair has been shellacked into place.”

But then - how does the ornament stay securely in place? “With bobby pins,” you say, “and it has a rubber backing that helps it grip the hair. And you can use glue.”

But what kind of glue is safe for hair AND safe for the backing on the ornament AND will form a secure bond? Prior DF posters have argued about the pros & cons of Elmer’s glue and eyelash glue, but there is no consensus.

And once the hairstyle is complete, which means all the bobby pins are invisible and the surface is glossy smooth, won’t sticking in extra pins to hold the ornament ruin the look? (Like a stick being used to poke holes on a flat sandy beach?)

If hairspray gets on the ornament, will the ornament immediately lose its sparkle, or does that dulling process only occur over time and with repeated applications of hairspray?

How many times can one reasonably expect to use/re-use a crystal hair ornament?

TIA for sharing your experiences!

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Personally, for an ornament like that, I use only eyelash glue, no pins, so I'll let someone else speak to the pins part of the question. After my hair is otherwise complete, I put little dots of glue all along the back of the ornament and let it sit to get tacky for a little while. Then I place it exactly where I've previously planned to put it and hold it there with my palm for a minute or so. I have never had any trouble with it coming off or moving during the comp. At the end of the comp day, I just peel it off -- the backing of the ornament is magically clean, leaving the glue in my hair. And then I use lots of conditioner in the shower to gradually work the glue clumps out of my hair. I've worn this ornament 3-4 times a year for 4-5 years, and I don't see any change in its appearance or function; I expect to be able to keep using it indefinitely.

Yes, any hairspray after application is bad; at least cover it with your hand if you need a hairspray touchup. I've never tried Elmer's glue, but that's just because eyelash glue is what I have with me anyway. I would expect them both to work about the same. My main caution is to plan out placement without glue first and then place it carefully; repositioning it after glue has touched your hair will leave visible glue spots (dried clear, but still obvious) that I don't know a way to get out besides starting over completely.
 

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