Mr 4 styles
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As a martial artist first striking action comes naturally
Has anyone ever achieved gold status on most of the 10 styles in 1 year?
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twnkltoz
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Yes, the way you use your legs and feet is different. All the other dances are similar, and then for tango you have to change. That can be difficult.
But the truth of the matter is, everyone is different, and some people struggle with one dance for the exact reason it's easy for others. the sharp movements of tango are much easier for me than the slow, controlled ones of foxtrot. Someone else may find that sharpness difficult to grasp/execute. It's a little silly to tell someone they're wrong because they order the difficulty of dances differently than you do.
But the truth of the matter is, everyone is different, and some people struggle with one dance for the exact reason it's easy for others. the sharp movements of tango are much easier for me than the slow, controlled ones of foxtrot. Someone else may find that sharpness difficult to grasp/execute. It's a little silly to tell someone they're wrong because they order the difficulty of dances differently than you do.
Mr 4 styles
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Who did that ???
twnkltoz
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That makes sense; I'd had some ballet training so the timing and flowing nature of the waltzes felt very familiar.
That , I don't recall , but I would agree..
One of the major problems in tango for beginners is, the timing changes in basic foundation steps .
Take the simple group of ; Walk , Progressive side, link to Prom, Closed Prom and Rev turn.
Three changes in this small group .
In spite of this, it still is the easier, in comparison to the other 3..
All the "Standard " dances, have their own pitfalls.
That was not really the point, and of course, students are different in how they respond.
Point is; thru empirical evidence over many moons, I can tell you that, tango for most new students, is the one dance that provides the ability, no matter how quick or slow they learn, gets them travelling around the floor with minimum variety, and for social purposes, it serves well, ergo, simplicity wins.
twnkltoz
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That is true. But what does any of that have to do with the OP's statement "In ballroom in terms of proficiency, I'm now more ahead in Quickstep, then Waltz, then foxtrot, then Tango then Viennese"?
If he finds tango hard, he finds it hard. It doesn't matter how any expert feels or how any other student progresses.
Going on and on about how someone should find a dance easier than they do serves no purpose except possibly to make them feel bad.
I'm not sure that's how I read it. OP essentially asked if his experience of finding some dances easier was typical. The answer seems to be yes, but not necessarily in that order. The argument is mostly over what the average order is, rather than being a judgement of OP's abilities specifically. Many people like being different from the average anyway. In fact, his other dances could easily be relatively good, rather than his tango being relatively poor.
We also don't know if his assessment is accurate, and whether it is a self-assessment or an instructor's opinion.
Conversation I had several years ago:
Me: "Ugh, tango is my worst dance."
Instructor: "No, your worst dance is waltz."
FancyFeet
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Lol... sounds like my version from a couple of years ago:
Me: "Ugh, I hate tango. I'm terrible at it, and wish we could just not do all 5."
Pro: "Well, it looks good and you score well, so you can't be that terrible."
And tango has, ever since, been referred to as "your favourite" by pro... even when my feelings on it increased to lukewarm.
(Yes, I know I don't have to do it, but if you want to dance open, all 5 is really your only option.)
Me: "Ugh, I hate tango. I'm terrible at it, and wish we could just not do all 5."
Pro: "Well, it looks good and you score well, so you can't be that terrible."
And tango has, ever since, been referred to as "your favourite" by pro... even when my feelings on it increased to lukewarm.
(Yes, I know I don't have to do it, but if you want to dance open, all 5 is really your only option.)
carlosyabrudy
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For proficiency... I guess I should have used the words "amount of knowledge and experience of figures".
I don't think any style of dance or in fact any activity in the world is "hard". This word hard i never agreed with. My brain changed hard and dissected what "hard" is ...
Chinese is not a hard language. Tight rope walking is not a hard task.... there is only HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW... HOW LONG HAVE YOU SPENT DOING SOMETHING... and where most people said "I just couldn't do it" this is where the brick wall of perseverance or frustration was met but if that wall never exists... only progress lies ahead no matter how small or how slow.
I think Tango is amazing and that is the video that got me hooked. I love the dynamism and sharpness that comes with the dance itself. It is just that in classes, tango has been the least addressed only being followed by Viennese Waltz and Paso....
I have been learning longer combinations of 8-10 figure routines in Cha Cha which work really well and despite being above my "pay grade" I at least practised them over and over in social settings with multiple partners so I have a little advanced long cha cha combination ingrained.
Progress and the feeling that comes with knowing you made some I find one of the most satisfying feelings ever. We can lose a lot of things in life but as long as we continue to make "dancing gains".... then we have something we have achieved... which is why i never skip sport/physical activity no matter what happens to me in the rest of life. Anybody else feel this way also?
I don't think any style of dance or in fact any activity in the world is "hard". This word hard i never agreed with. My brain changed hard and dissected what "hard" is ...
Chinese is not a hard language. Tight rope walking is not a hard task.... there is only HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW... HOW LONG HAVE YOU SPENT DOING SOMETHING... and where most people said "I just couldn't do it" this is where the brick wall of perseverance or frustration was met but if that wall never exists... only progress lies ahead no matter how small or how slow.
I think Tango is amazing and that is the video that got me hooked. I love the dynamism and sharpness that comes with the dance itself. It is just that in classes, tango has been the least addressed only being followed by Viennese Waltz and Paso....
I have been learning longer combinations of 8-10 figure routines in Cha Cha which work really well and despite being above my "pay grade" I at least practised them over and over in social settings with multiple partners so I have a little advanced long cha cha combination ingrained.
Progress and the feeling that comes with knowing you made some I find one of the most satisfying feelings ever. We can lose a lot of things in life but as long as we continue to make "dancing gains".... then we have something we have achieved... which is why i never skip sport/physical activity no matter what happens to me in the rest of life. Anybody else feel this way also?
carlosyabrudy
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Samba (not tango or any ballroom style) I find the worst for retention of routine... and struggle with the rotation direction when travelling backwards after argentine crosses and section of foot changes and corta jaca/closed rocks. .. this will need work whereas cha cha, rumba and jive are for some reason faster with retention.