Height difference; avoid, open embrace, or some other strategy?

If you are a leader, what are your strategies for dancing with a shorter follower, or a taller one - or do you simply avoid dancing with shorter or taller followers?

If you are are a follower, what are your strategies for dancing with a shorter leader, or a taller one - or do you simply avoid dancing with shorter or taller leaders ? Or do you take your cue from the leader?

Cheers,
As a rule I avoid dancing with taller women or women who are much shorter than me. It can be done but it's far from ideal. If the height difference is small, it's not that much of a problem, but there are a lot of tall women in tango (taller in heels) and it just doesn't work for me (unfortunately). I think it looks awkward, is often uncomfortable for both parties, and generally not worth the effort.
 
How about recruiting women from women's basketball and volleyball teams to help deal with the height issue!

Joking aside, it seems to me women in Tango tend to not be tall and tend to be thin, in contrast to what I have seen in Blues, Contra, and Salsa, where you see a number of tall and less thin women. Maybe it is the statistics of small numbers, or maybe it is something about Tango?
Lots of tall women in the milongas I've been going to, some very tall women, in fact -- 6' 2", 6'3" without heels.
 
One of my slightly taller followers seems to dance with me in a perpetual volcada which puts us cheek to cheek. As I am not the youngest gentleman, I find that to be a lot of weight falling down on me during an entire tanda. All in all I guess these are good problems to have.
I move my torso a bit forward to dance in slight apilado posture.
Cheek to cheek or not - but if there is "no-body", then it get an issue. Doesn't matter whether she dances a armlength away horizontally or vertically.
 
One of my slightly taller followers seems to dance with me in a perpetual volcada which puts us cheek to cheek. As I am not the youngest gentleman, I find that to be a lot of weight falling down on me during an entire tanda..
You´ve got a mouth. Don´t suffer in silence. Tango should be an effortless dance. My mantra in such a situation always is: Please dance on your own axis or I will finish up dancing with you!
 
I'm 6'5" (195cm) I've just started dancing (like, literally 4-5 lessons so far) and I've found that it's a *lot* easier, a lot less awkward, much more enjoyable, and I tread on less toes (due to different stride length, I think?) with taller partners. Unfortunately, the majority of learner followers I've met in London are significantly (more than a foot) shorter than me so far. It's dissuading me from continuing lessons a bit, to be honest.
 
I'm a short dude, so when I dance with taller women I typically dance from open. If I do go close, I rest the space between my shoulder and chest muscle against their side.
 
Hang in there! You are just starting, you'll be amazed at how much better you are doing at the 6, 12, and 24 month points. Dancing cheek-to-cheek is out of the question with my dear wife (DW), though sometimes I'll dance with my chin on the top of her head. Sometimes my DW wears very tall heels, and sometimes flats, the variety is fun. We finally had a very tall lady in our area. With heels she was within 2" of my height. My wife, all happy for me, said "Look, you finally get to dance cheek-to-cheek!" Now that I'm more experienced (3 years and hundreds of hours of experience) I do find one advantage to taller ladies: It is easier to see if they are smiling. Other than that I don't find the fun correlates to height. There are some steps that are easier with taller ladies, and some with shorter ladies, but it is a small number of steps that both can't do, and those tend to be show Tango steps.

Just to check, I assume you are doing close embrace? This would likely not be a problem in open embrace.

I'm not an instructor or an expert. My guess is it is less an issue of height and more of learning the finer points of leading. Here are some things that helped me:

Stand with your chest touching the edge of a door and keep your body straight. With your weight on your heels, your toes will actually go past the edge of the door. As you put more and more weight on the balls of your feet, you can get your feet almost a foot away from the door edge, and still pull your chest off the door (without hands). My instructors have said you want about 3/4 of your weight on the balls of your feet -- that gives your feet some space from the lady's feet, even if she is not doing the same.

This seems to be hard for the taller guys. Don't bend over your partner! You want a straight body for every height of lady. If you bend over, she is going to have to bend back a bit to conform to you for close embrace -- which means she'll put her feet closer to yours. Once I quit bending over the short ladies (didn't "need" to bend as much for taller ladies), I found it as easy to dance with short ladies as tall ladies.

Before you start: Switch weight between feet until you are sure you know which foot the lady is on. Then you'll know which of her feet are free to step with. If you just step, many ladies can sense that and quickly adjust, but they'll be a little behind then. Something I didn't learn for a couple of years: I was changing weight so smoothly that the ladies were having trouble detecting it. My close embrace was not going well. The instructor taught me to make a faster, more definite change of weight. That sends a clearer signal to the lady and my close embrace has gone much better.

Be sure to lead with your body, not your feet. To step, your body starts going forward. For shorter ladies I was tending to lead a step by bending over them. A couple of tips that helped me: "Move your heart towards her" and "Wait, wait, wait to step."

This has taken me quite a while to develop and I'm still working on it. As a beginner, I would lead a step, and then it was "Look out here I come!" It usually worked because usually the ladies were reading me well enough to get out of the way, but there were definitely some accidents, too. Ideally you start to lead something, sense if the lady's leg and foot are where you want them to be, and then move yourself accordingly. A great moment for me was the first time I could tell my wife's leg was stiff and not loose for a leg wrap well before the leg wrap. It's also great when I can sense the lady didn't step as I expected, and suddenly I need to go to plan B (it's perfect when she has no clue a "mistake" was made!).

With someone I don't know I start with weight shifts, and then start with a back step or side step to be sure we are in sync.

My first year instructor told me many times to take smaller steps! Something that might not be intuitive, take smaller steps to dance faster. BTW, ladies tend to be more flexible than we gentlemen. Some ladies have challenged me to a step size contest, and I have been amazed how big a short lady's steps can be!

Often short ladies say they wish they were taller to me. I always tell them they are a great height. Beauty and dance skill exists in a wide range of heights.

It would be great to hear insights you gain in the future.
I'm 6'5" (195cm) I've just started dancing (like, literally 4-5 lessons so far) and I've found that it's a *lot* easier, a lot less awkward, much more enjoyable, and I tread on less toes (due to different stride length, I think?) with taller partners. Unfortunately, the majority of learner followers I've met in London are significantly (more than a foot) shorter than me so far. It's dissuading me from continuing lessons a bit, to be honest.
 
I'm 6'5" (195cm) I've just started dancing (like, literally 4-5 lessons so far) and I've found that it's a *lot* easier, a lot less awkward, much more enjoyable, and I tread on less toes (due to different stride length, I think?) with taller partners. Unfortunately, the majority of learner followers I've met in London are significantly (more than a foot) shorter than me so far. It's dissuading me from continuing lessons a bit, to be honest.
Certainly when the heights line up, it's easier and more enjoyable, especially with close embrace. The only encouragement I can offer is that there are tall women out there, and you'll be very popular with them, if you keep with it.
 
Hello again. So, basically 6 months on and I'm doing better. Still not 100% sold on AT, but I'm keeping on with it for now!

Thank you for you hints -- I have improved my frame and I have a better lead through my chest although I still (occasionally) misjudge things and take longer steps than my partner (but then again, that tends to be with the newer followers, as those with more experience seem to extend their backsteps further naturally?) I'm much more comfortable with typical-height followers now, although where there's 18" or so of height difference is still really awkward and ungainly (and I tend to just go for a more open embrace in those cases) and dancing with women 6' and taller is still much more delightful as everything "feels" more comfortable and in harmony. There still seems to be a vanishingly small number of those though, unfortunately.

One note: I find that I it harder -- but not impossible -- to maintain a connection in open embrace, which sometimes causes it's own problems, but I think that's a typical "tango newbie" thing, and not really a height difference thing.

My current struggle is trying to navigate a milonga. I wish our class did practicas as I would like to practice more, but here it seems to either be "OK, this week we will learn 'X' without any actual dancing" or going onto a dancefloor full of people doing amazingly elegant things. I want to practice everything I've learnt, and how to connect it all together, in an environment with other beginners where we won't spoil others enjoyment (who don't want newbies like us getting in their way).
 
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Hi,
In addition to this question, may I ask if there is any strategy to dance with a more weight follower? (I am a leader but I am only 53kg...)
 

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