Milonguero style

dchester said:
She must have learned about it then. A couple years back, she was in Boston and I cabeceoed her for a tanda.

She might have a future in this tango stuff, as she was pretty good.

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I love the way dancers take a Spanish noun and add the past tense ending ed to form a past tense verb in English text.

Cabeceo: nod, nodding; shake of the head, (horse) toss of the head.

You nodded to invite her for a tanda. How was the tanda? She is very short and you are very tall.

Graciela danced with Eduardo Pareja recently http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRHDXXSe2E
 
jantango said:
I love the way dancers take a Spanish noun and add the past tense ending ed to form a past tense verb in English text.

Cabeceo: nod, nodding; shake of the head, (horse) toss of the head.

You nodded to invite her for a tanda. How was the tanda? She is very short and you are very tall.

Graciela danced with Eduardo Pareja recently http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRHDXXSe2E
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There is a term for that: Spanglish (mixing Spanish and English)
It's not so surprising in tango comunity because many spanish (tango) words have their meaning through the dancing population.
The same thing is IT where English is influencing other languages.

Height difference might be the problem but it's not necessary to be.
There are tricks to accomodate that difference.
 
I don't like to be in the debate of varies styles, etc., since I really don't know enough to even have much of my own opinion. However, I think it is very important for teachers to let the students know that they need to adapt their style to the environment. Just this past Saturday, I was in a crowded milonga. A couple of foreign visitors invited me to dance. They are not bad dancers, but they didn't know how to dance small. Even though I tried very hard to confine my dance, I would not be able to stop their big back/forth movement and multiple sweeping big turns, unless I back lead. So I declined their second tanda (invitation). I think that one of them was very surprised at my refusal to continue, because he thought that the dance had been great. I didn't explain, but how could I? I hope that they would have noticed by watching the crowd that they should not dance so big.
 
LoveTango said:
I don't like to be in the debate of varies styles, etc., since I really don't know enough to even have much of my own opinion. However, I think it is very important for teachers to let the students know that they need to adapt their style to the environment. Just this past Saturday, I was in a crowded milonga. A couple of foreign visitors invited me to dance. They are not bad dancers, but they didn't know how to dance small. Even though I tried very hard to confine my dance, I would not be able to stop their big back/forth movement and multiple sweeping big turns, unless I back lead. So I declined their second tanda (invitation). I think that one of them was very surprised at my refusal to continue, because he thought that the dance had been great. I didn't explain, but how could I? I hope that they would have noticed by watching the crowd that they should not dance so big.
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Whether you choose to spell it out for them or not, is your choice. I don't think you would be wrong whether you did or not.

In any case, it does seem that they were not able to determine that for themselves.
 
LoveTango said:
...I didn't explain, but how could I? ...
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I don't know. It would depend on your personal preferences, and also on the person you would have been talking to.

I do appreciate that you declined to dance again. I wish more women would decline to dance with leaders who are discourteous on the dance floor. If all women declined, it would keep those guys off the floor altogether.
 
AndaBien said:
I don't know. It would depend on your personal preferences, and also on the person you would have been talking to.

I do appreciate that you declined to dance again. I wish more women would decline to dance with leaders who are discourteous on the dance floor. If all women declined, it would keep those guys off the floor altogether.
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Maybe I can say...later, when there is more space...
 
LoveTango said:
Even though I tried very hard to confine my dance, I would not be able to stop their big back/forth movement and multiple sweeping big turns, unless I back lead.
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I understand by back leading that the follower initiates next movement and I usually don't appreciate it. But if the follower makes the movements slower than initiated by the leader or takes shorter steps, I accept it as her style and way of dancing (if it is so all the time).
This happened to me when I was dancing in South Korea. Some of the ladies were dancing more slowly, more elegant too and they never accepted the faster dance I offered. I think it changed even my dance permanently to the better!
 
jantango said:
Dance comes from within. No one can change who you are. Shame on your teacher for trying to limit your dance.
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This is MOST re-freshing coming from 'you'. I cannot understand how you can post this here, and something so contradictory in the Musicality thread. Yet, I am glad to read this. Great post.

AndaBien said:
I wish more women would decline to dance with leaders who are discourteous on the dance floor. If all women declined, it would keep those guys off the floor altogether.
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A-M-E-N !!
 
AndaBien said:
I do appreciate that you declined to dance again. I wish more women would decline to dance with leaders who are discourteous on the dance floor. If all women declined, it would keep those guys off the floor altogether.
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You don't always realize who is going to be a jerk on the dance floor...or don't always remember. There have been times where it was only after I'd started dancing with some guy that I remembered that I disliked him/dancing with him.

...and that's where social conditioning to never make a scene, or the conditioning to try and never hurt anyone's feelings, or the conditioning to be
nice kicks in...
 
Peaches said:
You don't always realize who is going to be a jerk on the dance floor...or don't always remember. There have been times where it was only after I'd started dancing with some guy that I remembered that I disliked him/dancing with him.

...and that's where social conditioning to never make a scene, or the conditioning to try and never hurt anyone's feelings, or the conditioning to be
nice kicks in...
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with that affliction.

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This happened to me just this evening. Some guy asked me to dance, I had misgivings but said yes, and then when we started I remembered the reasons for the misgivings: crappy posture, plus crappy embrace, couldn't find the beat to save his life. Finished that tanda with a very very sore back. Rather put the kaibosh on dancing after that. (General hint: if the girl is going to some effort to keep the embrace open, DON'T use more force to try to pull her in close. God almighty. I dance close by default, and with as much forward presence as I can get away with. For me to actively try to pull away means there is something very wrong. In retrospect, should have said "thank you" and moved on after the first song.)
 
Peaches said:
...and that's where social conditioning to never make a scene, or the conditioning to try and never hurt anyone's feelings, or the conditioning to be nice kicks in...
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Oh, if we 'all' could only do this... on the dance floor and on the dance-forums. ;)
 
Peaches said:
You don't always realize who is going to be a jerk on the dance floor...or don't always remember. There have been times where it was only after I'd started dancing with some guy that I remembered that I disliked him/dancing with him...
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And of course, after a certain amount of time goes by, you have to allow for the possibility that someone may have improved. I certainly hope I have improved over time, and I hate it when someone who danced with me quite awhile back still refuses to dance with me only because when they first danced with me 5+ years ago, they weren't thrilled. So if I expect to be given another chance at a different point in my development, I have to give others that chance too.

Of course, if you've danced with someone repeatedly over several years, and they are still doing whatever obnoxious thing they were the first time, eventually it makes sense to give up on them! ;)
 
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