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..If ratios are too bad, befriend a female leader and maybe learn to lead at the same time and take..
This suggestion sounds logical, but I still warn against it. The goal is to establish yourself among the local follower base. As soon as a follower starts leading, it takes the pressure off in small communities. In other words, these followers will have a much harder time being perceived as followers in the future. I've been complained about this countless times!
 
Sorry Mirada
That doesn't matter. Murano reminded me of a wonderful vacation. And the milongas in Venice are wonderful, too. The tango scene there is very small, as there are hardly any natives left on the islands. I was immediately adopted and passed around among the native tangueras. Those were heavenly conditions for a man.

But you can see from my experiences how crucial local networks and peer groups are in tango. Take my first post to heart! My mantra is: learning tango is social learning first and foremost.
 
Look for small group, well role balanced milonga and try to join.
Whilst this is good advice, you need to Google the area. Sometimes there aren't many games available in town! But that's sometimes why we travel to somewhere worthwhile.

first I look to her shoes. If she has proper Tango shoes, I immediatelly know she takes this dance seriously
Footwear is telling - but it needn't be stereotypical stletto tango shoes. Flats are quite common for serious practice - and even in some milongas.
 
If ratios are too bad, befriend a female leader and maybe learn to lead at the same time and take turns. This builds experience so that you are seen on the floor.
Hmmm. Not convinced at the stage the OP references. It can just make things more difficult to get established. I have a follower friend with whom we were in AT classes from the beginning. She was always an accomplished follower with a dance background in jive, etc. A few years ago she started to learn to lead (I was also doing some following). Occasionally we discuss notes on leading and following. She says leading is far more difficult than she imagined!

Yes, I understand the history where men used to learn with men, and women apparently learned with brothers, mothers and other family members, but that's not teaching or learning today. However I do agree that it's no bad thing for technique if you want to do that. But in the circumstances I'd consider that later and get competent at dancing first - which was probably the original objective.
 
... you need to Google the area..
Alora kindof lives on a small inhabited island in the midst of the tango diaspora ocean. Of course, she could commute to London. Personally, that would be too strenuous for me. Therefore, I think her tango vacations initiative is the better choice.

I would like to recommend two German providers I traveled with. Language is secondary. Almost everyone in Germany is bilingual. In the West, we learned English.

1) Reiseziele 2025 - Tango Tours

2) Tangoreisen 2025 - La Milonga

(Brummbär and me would assist in translating, Alora.)
 
Sorry, but I'd like to emphasize something different from the previous speaker. Social tango is precisely about NOT having a dedicated dance partner. Admittedly, as a beginner, you need one. But the goal is to become independent. I'll repeat myself, it's more important to build a network of like-minded people.
I agree about 'dedicated dance partner' in the context, but there's no reason why one can't have several 'dance partners' in a práctica, or during the week - or to go to workshops , milongas (marathons, encurntros...). It's no good when you both learn incorrectly - but you also find the questions to ask. Equally it's no good only dancing with a 'pro' dancer. I'm fortunate that I wake up with mine, and we've worked together for many years, but we don't restrict ourselves to only dancing, or practicing, together. This is where the social aspect comes in to play.
 
Therefore, I think her tango vacations initiative is the better choice.
Depends what's included in those 'vacations' and who's leading them, and their competence as teachers. Some are just milongas and 'wellness'/spas in a great setting; others include a mix of workshops, milongas and relaxation. Something with group 'workshops' together helps the social aspects for milongas in the sunset looking over the ocean with the mountains in the background...(check if there's aircon!)
 
..there's no reason why one can't have several 'dance partners'...
We usually start with one dedicated practice partner (hard to find). Then comes a phase with multiple dance partners at the same time. That's exactly what I meant by peer group. However, in this context, I thought it would be too boastful to write that I had four dedicated dance partners during this phase of my life. One for group classes, one for privates and workshops, one for sex, and one in the waiting list.
 
I’ve thought of going to London but it means going by train and coming back late at night on my own.

I’m single.

Wouldn’t the average age be younger in London?

Of course I’d love to have the partner options that you have Opendoor! Hopefully one day..who knows? But for now I’d be super happy with just one partner.
 
You would not enjoy dancing in most of the London milongas unless you know people there already and are content with dancing within that group for the whole night, with maybe one tanda from a leader outwith. However, as @TTanguero might recommend, there are milongas within and in the vicinity of London that you would probably enjoy a lot more:

Pavadita in Hammersmith, organised by Nikki
Tango Café in Clapham, organiser by Katerina
Tanguito on Tuesday nights and Sunday afternoons, organised by Bruno (Actually, not so sure about this one)

Further out:
Cambridge on Tuesdays and Fridays
Thames Valley Tango at Old Windsor and Basingstoke, organised by Charles and Sarah
Tango Secrets at Maidenhead, organised by Irina

I will also tentatively recommend the Spitalfields outdoor milonga, organised on one/two Sunday afternoons a month during the summer at Spitalfields market, if only because essentially everyone goes there, the atmosphere is great, and I think you have a chance of getting dances, but given that it's very, very well-attended, getting lost in the crowd is a definite possibility.

I will not recommend Tango Garden on Saturday afternoons because the attendance (I hear) is not good.
 
Wouldn’t the average age be younger in London?
It depends on the milonga – there are ones that are mostly 20s and 30s, others where the average is probably 50+. Of the ones @pianistamediano mentions, Pavadita, Thames Valley, and Secrets all skew older. Cambridge is a hybrid of 50-70 and university students, and they don't mix much.

Tango Secrets is my absolute favourite milonga, and the next one is this Friday. It's a trek from Essex, though if you can easily connect to the Elizabeth Line then it's a practical journey. They offer a free shuttle from and to the nearest station, just 5 mins drive. If you want to go, let me know and I'll let you know which train to take.
 
I’ve thought of going to London but it means going by train and coming back late at night on my own.

I’m single.

Wouldn’t the average age be younger in London?

Of course I’d love to have the partner options that you have Opendoor! Hopefully one day..who knows? But for now I’d be super happy with just one partner.
It's better if you know people there, or are part of some group there. That social aspect. Take a friend (either role!). Yes, they tend to be younger, but groups can include older dancers. There's also privates.

People do travel in and back out again, even for lessons. London does have a public transport system - even overnight (ah, Negracha!)

Why not take a look at Spitalfields open air, or Tanguito's in Angel precinct on Sat, 2-Aug (both free). Take a look at Bruno's Tanguito in Angel for lessons and workshops (and holidays). I'd also take a look at Nikki Preddy's Pavadita. Nikki has been on the London tango scene for (politely!) decades. One of the 'founders'!

There's a London milongas listing, but some can be snobby and cliquey, unless you're in the 'set'.
 
Hi agsin

Thsnk you so much.

Cambridge was where I had the bad experience of sitting for 4 hours without a dance, tried the Mirada with a man of my age and got a ‘no thank you’ I’ve been there 3 times, tried the classes beforehand but felt out of my depth, this triggered me to go to private lessons as I sensed I just wasn’t good enough.

I was thinking of going to,Spitalfields this Sunday with the girls from my class but it’s going to be 30 c so I am going to Tanguito for the beginner’s class and see how it goes.

I’m going to Southend on `Thursday for a beginner/intermediate/milonga evening which new for me and I have my private lessons and two hour class tonight.

I’ve booked to go to France in August and Buenos Aries in November with Tanquito.
I will also try your other suggestions.

Thank you Tanguerro and Brummbaer.

So I’ve taken your advice, thank you so much.

You are very kind

Xx
 

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