Englighten me, Please...

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OK, let's say they wore normal shoes. They're still walking backwards. That's not natural, surely?
The ability to walk backwards is natural, yes. That's how come almost everyone can do it, without instruction. The fact that one doesn't get much practice or application outside dancing doesn't change that. In the dancing embrace it soon becomes as easy as walking forwards. With a sufficiently good leader a new girl that's comfortable with the embrace typically needs only a few dances to become comfortable walking backwards. For a girl that's not receiving and/or not comfortable with a good embrace, it is a different story.
 
The ability to walk backwards is natural, yes. That's how come almost everyone can do it, without instruction. .
Well, surely every physical activity is "natural" by that yardstick? So why bother training anyone on anything?

Those Olympic athletes with specialised coaches? Wasting their money, all of them. Running and jumping is natural, after all.
 
> Well, surely every physical activity is "natural" by that yardstick?

It's a theory...

> So why bother training anyone on anything?
> Those Olympic athletes with specialised coaches?

... which you just disproved.
 

fascination

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No-one needs to guess.

The comment you replied to was about the guys with "just two years of dance experience". For avoidance of doubt, I was referring to Gustavo Naviera and Fabian Salas.

You then mention Cambridge. Again for avoidance of doubt, I was referring to "the dance school in my home city Cambridge (UK)".

Actually we cannot tell who is reading... or even who is writing in the case of people like yourself who are hiding behind pseudonyms. I have a feeling the motivation behind your comments would be a lot clearer if we actually knew who you were.
for the record...we have a policy here of not criticizing particular individual's teaching or character b/c they may not have access to this forum and likely do not know they are being questioned/maligned and therefore have no opportunity to speak to it...henceforth...it is IMPERATIVE that you leave off particular identifiers when referring to a specific instructor...you can talk specifics via pm...but doing otherwise in the public is gossip whether true or not, in that even if true, it is unverafiable b/c the person is not here...it won't be tolerated...and further incidedents will involve infractions...questions on this policy will also not be made in the forum without involving infractions...questions may go to the staff mailbox...
 
for the record...we have a policy here of not criticizing particular individual's teaching [...] b/c they may not have access to this forum and likely do not know they are being questioned/maligned and therefore have no opportunity to speak to it...henceforth...it is IMPERATIVE that you leave off particular identifiers when referring to a specific instructor...
I think you need to check the Forum rules and guidelines. They say nothing of the sort.

questions on this policy will also not be made in the forum without involving infractions...
For avoidance of doubt, please note this reply does not contain a question.
 

fascination

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I think you need to check the Forum rules and guidelines. They say nothing of the sort.

For avoidance of doubt, please note this reply does not contain a question.
we have a policy on gossip and inflammatory statements...the guidelines are my job to interprete and enforce as I see fit in good conscience and consistency...I have earned the privilege of doing so and exercise the best possible judgement within my capacity...other members have also found your behavior to be inconsistent with our policies... as for commentary...or questioning it... regarding moderation, as you may notice (since you have read them) guidelines are clear that we aren't going to discuss moderation in the public forum...further nitpicking of my moderation will lead to a vacation
 
for the record...we have a policy here of not criticizing particular individual's teaching or character b/c they may not have access to this forum and likely do not know they are being questioned/maligned and therefore have no opportunity to speak to it...
Makes sense. Most forums have similar "No criticisms of individuals" rules. It's just common sense really.

However...
.questions on this policy will also not be made in the forum without involving infractions...
(Hopefully I won't get infracted for this) Would it be possible to either edit the FAQ to add this policy in, or post it and any other guidelines as a sticky?

After all, some of us (me included) have occasional failures of common sense.
 
we aren't going to discuss moderation in the public forum...
I completely sympathise - I was a mod on a similar forum for a few years. If you get back seat public criticisms of decisions, you can never do your job.

On a less serious note:
we have a policy on gossip
i.e. we need more of it :D

:lol: and so is pigs flying! its just a case of them practicing it enough!
They're not flying, they're falling with style.
 

Peaches

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Well, etiquette dictates that the men are supposed to catch them. So, really, it doesn't involve any practicing at all! The men have to learn to catch them...for the pigs...er, followers...er, pigs...it's perfectly natural and there's nothing they need to work on.
 

Larinda McRaven

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Makes sense. Most forums have similar "No criticisms of individuals" rules. It's just common sense really.

However...

(Hopefully I won't get infracted for this) Would it be possible to either edit the FAQ to add this policy in, or post it and any other guidelines as a sticky?

After all, some of us (me included) have occasional failures of common sense.
Somewhere in the guidelines is states that discussions of moderating policies IS welcome... it just doesn't belong in the AT threads or the Ballroom threads... It belongs in the Private Messages to Staff, where discussions can be held without derailing current discussions.

Perhaps we could make that more apparent somewhere. If you would like to raise this issue, of making the guidelines more visible, in the Staff Mailbox we can expound on it! But if the debate gets drawn out here it will simply be lost for future reference.

And yes, continually bickering in public (especially with a mod) results in infractions. Please take it outside of the dance threads....

BOT or at least something about pigs....
 
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