I would say that you an emotional guy
Why some women are not asked to dance
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WhiskeyPapa
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But you won’t really know until you break down and accept my cabeceo!I would say that you an emotional guy
Is there any way to accept a cabaceo HERE?
WhiskeyPapa
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“I’ll see you in Berlin for a tango...”
I thought I have accepted everybody's cabaceos
First Cafe Dominguez milonga
Look for the shoes
opendoor
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As said some weeks earlier, I don't like that lottery game in the twilight of an milonga. Lets better meet in a restaurant and go to the milonga as a crowning highlight afterwards.
hahahaha , i identify with no 2 on your list
LadyLeader
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That is very true but at some point, it can turn around!I know that’s the PC answer but it’s just not the same—no matter how you try to dress it up. Heterosexual women prefer dancing with men and vice versa... of course brainwashing people DOES go a long way!
or... maybe Germany really is different!
Some followers came to me because it is more uncomplicated to take a workshop with me. To keep the gender play going complicates the learning process for them.
Another reason seems to be that some experienced followers get quite frustrated by the leaders. If they still want to keep up dancing a neutral female leader is an opportunity for them. Anyhow to relax a tanda or two!
itwillhappen
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I think I'm not the right one for pc.I know that’s the PC answer but it’s just not the same—no matter how you try to dress it up. Heterosexual women prefer dancing with men and vice versa... of course brainwashing people DOES go a long way!
or... maybe Germany really is different!
And I don't dictate their preferences to anyone. For example, if someone prefers to dance only with very fat partners, then they shall do so. But there are hardly any such partners in tango, therefore complaining is of no use, you have to bring them with you or sit mostly.
itwillhappen
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I can't see into the future. But there is nothing to be done, what happens just happens.
WhiskeyPapa
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Of course they do... a truly good leader is every woman’s dream... how many years and how much effort does it take to become one if you’re not professional? 20 or never?
but if the goal is contact, the dance as a friendly (or passionate) conversation with mutual clumsiness ignored, pleasure can come early and be sustained...
I know people who reached that stage in a much shorter time. Lets say with some preexisting body awareness, talent and practice, 5 years. Not world championship level good, but 'dream leader for most followers' good.
WhiskeyPapa
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At 3.5 years, I’m shooting for reaching that level at 10 years (and I take 5+ hours of private lessons a week)... one problem is followers want very different things from you: some want milonguero style and don’t like breaking the embrace; some want Nuevo; some give themselves up to you—“lead me as you wish—I’m yours”; some want autonomy; some can dance; many can’t and aren’t aware of the fact (that doesn’t prevent a good dance); some want coffee. Practicing with someone regularly almost feels like cheating because you know what to expect from each other and will often look better on the floor than those who are discovering one another through a series of accidents.
That’s the male view—no doubt followers can complain about how many Leading styles they have to adapt to.
in short, 5 years strikes me as pretty fast except for those partners with whom you’ve danced a great deal...
LadyLeader
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There were a handful of followers who were willing to put up with me at the very beginning. When my lead got more comfortable that number has grown year by year but it will never be all followers and not everywhere.
Gssh said once that we maybe should think more about: Why do they want to dance with us?
I try to go with that and stop thinking about Why don't they?
Even faster than that is possible. Conversely we all know people who have been dancing for 10 or 20 years and are still not good. The reason people appear to progress at wildly different rates is that it depends on their pre-existing abilities that they picked up elsewhere in life, which are usually misidentified as "talent".